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Thanks for looking into that turret kit pickup stuff. Is ghost-you as adorable as a mewkat? -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 08:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 
Thanks for looking into that turret kit pickup stuff. Is ghost-you as adorable as a mewkat? -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 08:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
  
==Recipe Page==
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==WiP==
Regarding [[Recipe]] page:
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Can you not remove WiPs because of your "personal(ly)" opinion? These are physical entities in the game and need to be documented. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 08:56, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
  
Perhaps we could just link to the "no recipe" category and have a list of "special" recipes (like fiendish ID card) while mentioning that most things have recipes, cause people like interesting tidbits. IMO listing 'em all isn't super useful - the actual recipe (that lists ingredients) is super useful yes, but those are efficiently on individual pages. Where to get the recipe is also on the individual page of the item. I don't think we need to bother ourselves updating the recipe page. I have a similar opinion about [[List of alchemy paths]].
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==Clotho's Talk Page==
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Here's a huge important chunk of what you missed regarding the leadup to even bothering making that tag (also sent you this mail in game):
  
I'd propose something like this for the Recipe page (and I'd propose removing "no recipe" from the costumeinfo, since no costumes currently have a recipe, and I believe that category listing is leftover from the very very early days of costumes, I will do this after this edit actually):
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Went through and "fixed" rarity icons. All that's left is outdated filenames on the Supply Depot page, which is currently protected, so I can't edit it. Would you mind changing the filenames to the ones used on the wiki now (all examples on Rarity page)? Or you could unprotect the page (again, haha - like you did so I could link to Supply Depot Sale stuff). The risk here is that I might not be online when it's unprotected, I suppose.
  
Most [[Armor]], [[Helmet]], [[Shield]], [[Bomb]], [[Handgun]], [[Sword]], and several [[Trinket]] items have recipes with a few exceptions, listed [[:Category:No Recipe|here]]. Most other Arsenal items do not have recipes. Below is a list of items that have unusual recipes, and/or are unusual in that they have a recipe:
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Just got fed up with a switch system, but I realize this sort of "reuploading things to better names" activity isn't ideal. There's a lot of inconsistencies on the wiki when it comes to this sort of thing (materials, perks, etc), and well, I've decided that it's not worth anybody's time (certainly not mine) to "fix" this sort of issue by reuploading files to better names, when you can just make an ugly (but functional) switch. There's more reasons than time though:
  
:[[Grand Solstice Ring]] - this trinket requires two preceding 4* items.
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:1) the game could give multiple functions to a single entity, as with "buff" effects (pickup items as well as triggered by monsters on each other or battle sprites on knights is just one example) - I just fixed duplicate file issues regarding these today
:[[Fiendish ID Card]] - a material. Materials usually do not have recipes.
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:2) the game could change the arsenal classification of an item to be another arsenal classification, potentially rendering filenames inaccurate, and a hassle to "fix" if there's hundreds of them. But nobody really sees filenames except editors, so inaccurate filenames of this specific kind don't matter as long as published page content is clear, right?
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:3) we are at risk of losing easy access to archive data using the "reupload to a better filename to fix" method. I've often used the date an original icon was uploaded to make sense of the order of events. For example, I used the file history of the accessory icons for several of the older Round Shade accessory items to try and discern the relative date Round Shades were first released (not everything has release notes or admin posts), and a few others.  
  
etc.
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In the future, I'll be sure to just deal with a messy switch that only editors who have to muck around with code have to see. I'll "fix" odds and ends that I see though, like if someone just uploads a file to ads;jkflhasdfjkh.jpg or something like that :)
  
-[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 13:57, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
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should I put the above reasons in a sort of "how to wiki" guide (a few of us are planning on revamping the style guide page to be more up to date), if you think they're prudent/correct?
:Made a forum post [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/107998 here]. Weeee. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 14:08, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
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::Regarding costumes, several redirects have the category. I'll take care of those too later. Thanks for bringing this up, it's sort of been bothering me ever since I put up that "learn recipe" animation. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 14:16, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
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-Novaster 14:15, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
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:I've fixed the icons. I'm not sure why you have to reupload them when it's so much easier to move the images to a better name. Just provide me with a specific list and the proposed names and I'll move them. --Clotho 16:52, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
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::because we're not allowed to move images.. it's a one line configure if you're inclined though --Icytea 17:31, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
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:::I do have the option - haven't tested so I'm not sure if it's bugged or not. If you give me a list, I'll move them to the right spot. That way we don't lose history or resolution. --Clotho 22:00, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
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</em> Sorry for any confusion caused by my "cleanup" of what I consider to be "clutter" on talk pages I'm involved in. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:09, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 20:10, 17 February 2015

Farewell

I don't know whether you'll check this again. And if you do, you might find this message irritating. But thank you for all of your work on the wiki. Thank you for your research into shields and other aspects of the game. Your effort has not gone unnoticed, and I'm sad to see you leave. Happy travels. Jdavis 01:29, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

I was gonna draw a thing, but then I realized that I can't draw very well under stress! We didn't always agree on things, but in the end what all of us have made so far has made the community pretty happy. Hope to keep seeing you in-game. -Novaster 11:42, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

You're Backish

Thanks for looking into that turret kit pickup stuff. Is ghost-you as adorable as a mewkat? -Novaster 08:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

WiP

Can you not remove WiPs because of your "personal(ly)" opinion? These are physical entities in the game and need to be documented. -Novaster 08:56, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Clotho's Talk Page

Here's a huge important chunk of what you missed regarding the leadup to even bothering making that tag (also sent you this mail in game):

Went through and "fixed" rarity icons. All that's left is outdated filenames on the Supply Depot page, which is currently protected, so I can't edit it. Would you mind changing the filenames to the ones used on the wiki now (all examples on Rarity page)? Or you could unprotect the page (again, haha - like you did so I could link to Supply Depot Sale stuff). The risk here is that I might not be online when it's unprotected, I suppose.

Just got fed up with a switch system, but I realize this sort of "reuploading things to better names" activity isn't ideal. There's a lot of inconsistencies on the wiki when it comes to this sort of thing (materials, perks, etc), and well, I've decided that it's not worth anybody's time (certainly not mine) to "fix" this sort of issue by reuploading files to better names, when you can just make an ugly (but functional) switch. There's more reasons than time though:

1) the game could give multiple functions to a single entity, as with "buff" effects (pickup items as well as triggered by monsters on each other or battle sprites on knights is just one example) - I just fixed duplicate file issues regarding these today
2) the game could change the arsenal classification of an item to be another arsenal classification, potentially rendering filenames inaccurate, and a hassle to "fix" if there's hundreds of them. But nobody really sees filenames except editors, so inaccurate filenames of this specific kind don't matter as long as published page content is clear, right?
3) we are at risk of losing easy access to archive data using the "reupload to a better filename to fix" method. I've often used the date an original icon was uploaded to make sense of the order of events. For example, I used the file history of the accessory icons for several of the older Round Shade accessory items to try and discern the relative date Round Shades were first released (not everything has release notes or admin posts), and a few others.

In the future, I'll be sure to just deal with a messy switch that only editors who have to muck around with code have to see. I'll "fix" odds and ends that I see though, like if someone just uploads a file to ads;jkflhasdfjkh.jpg or something like that :)

should I put the above reasons in a sort of "how to wiki" guide (a few of us are planning on revamping the style guide page to be more up to date), if you think they're prudent/correct?

-Novaster 14:15, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

I've fixed the icons. I'm not sure why you have to reupload them when it's so much easier to move the images to a better name. Just provide me with a specific list and the proposed names and I'll move them. --Clotho 16:52, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
because we're not allowed to move images.. it's a one line configure if you're inclined though --Icytea 17:31, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
I do have the option - haven't tested so I'm not sure if it's bugged or not. If you give me a list, I'll move them to the right spot. That way we don't lose history or resolution. --Clotho 22:00, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for any confusion caused by my "cleanup" of what I consider to be "clutter" on talk pages I'm involved in. -Novaster 20:09, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

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