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==Messages Here==
 
==Messages Here==
 
Ah, that's good to hear. I'm fairly new to this, and, so I appreciate the advice you gave.  
 
Ah, that's good to hear. I'm fairly new to this, and, so I appreciate the advice you gave.  
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Rather than spend 25cr to send in-game mail, 'leaving this here-- "Romala" in the Embermist Scavengers guild is the knight-person who owns the shadow drakon I took a screenshot of. --[[User:Froglegs|Froglegs]] 10:34, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
 
Rather than spend 25cr to send in-game mail, 'leaving this here-- "Romala" in the Embermist Scavengers guild is the knight-person who owns the shadow drakon I took a screenshot of. --[[User:Froglegs|Froglegs]] 10:34, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
 
:Nvm. I found the dude. --[[User:Froglegs|Froglegs]] 11:23, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
 
:Nvm. I found the dude. --[[User:Froglegs|Froglegs]] 11:23, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
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== I'm never adorable. ==
 
== I'm never adorable. ==
  
 
You know this. Just figured I'd do a couple of small-ish changes then go back to being dead. --[[User:Acies|Acies]] 08:39, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 
You know this. Just figured I'd do a couple of small-ish changes then go back to being dead. --[[User:Acies|Acies]] 08:39, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
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== WeaponInfo for Bombs ==
 
== WeaponInfo for Bombs ==
 
Did the Bombs, though with your last changes in the Template most "Ability"-Boxes are currently empty. -[[User:Hennils|Hennils]] 22:12, 26.03.2015 (CET)
 
Did the Bombs, though with your last changes in the Template most "Ability"-Boxes are currently empty. -[[User:Hennils|Hennils]] 22:12, 26.03.2015 (CET)
 
:Thanks a bunch, will get right on that. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:53, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 
:Thanks a bunch, will get right on that. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:53, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
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== Gear Halo stuff ==
 
== Gear Halo stuff ==
  
 
Which tag did you use? --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 18:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 
Which tag did you use? --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 18:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
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== Wheel Launcher ==
 
== Wheel Launcher ==
 
I understand your point completly, maybe we should keep them in the monster section but add them in the exploration section too (Firestorm Citadel and Grinchin Assault). I consider that the 'construct-launcher' is the monster and the spiked wheel is the [[exploration]] element (that is why I didnt add Grinchlin Assault into the location of the Wheel Launcher, because only the spiked wheels appear). Don't forget that we will probably see Wheel Launchers again in the incoming new FSC mission! - ''Sir Onox''
 
I understand your point completly, maybe we should keep them in the monster section but add them in the exploration section too (Firestorm Citadel and Grinchin Assault). I consider that the 'construct-launcher' is the monster and the spiked wheel is the [[exploration]] element (that is why I didnt add Grinchlin Assault into the location of the Wheel Launcher, because only the spiked wheels appear). Don't forget that we will probably see Wheel Launchers again in the incoming new FSC mission! - ''Sir Onox''
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== Exploration Image ==
 
== Exploration Image ==
 
[http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:ScenarioRoom-WolverDen.jpg Here] it is, I think. - Altmetal 08/05/15
 
[http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:ScenarioRoom-WolverDen.jpg Here] it is, I think. - Altmetal 08/05/15
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== Monster Visuals ==
 
== Monster Visuals ==
 
Seems a good idea, specially if we start with dangerous monsters like Almirian Crusaders, Mecha Knights or Deadnaughts, how we should make this? Have you an early concept about how the article should be done? - ''Sir Onox''
 
Seems a good idea, specially if we start with dangerous monsters like Almirian Crusaders, Mecha Knights or Deadnaughts, how we should make this? Have you an early concept about how the article should be done? - ''Sir Onox''
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== Crash Site ==
 
== Crash Site ==
 
I have been updating [[The Ancient Generator]] and [[Crossing the Chasm]] with your new interface and looks pretty good, but what about Crash Site? It doesn't have a 'card mission', should I just add the pink-purple-gate like image for the level? - ''Sir Onox'
 
I have been updating [[The Ancient Generator]] and [[Crossing the Chasm]] with your new interface and looks pretty good, but what about Crash Site? It doesn't have a 'card mission', should I just add the pink-purple-gate like image for the level? - ''Sir Onox'
 
:I'd look through the files and try to find a visual like this one [https://youtu.be/nfo24SNqTeM?t=72 here]. Or just a picture of the crash site, or the crash pod you see when making a knight. Or I can do that later and add in a size control parameter so the infobox stays reasonable. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 19:45, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:I'd look through the files and try to find a visual like this one [https://youtu.be/nfo24SNqTeM?t=72 here]. Or just a picture of the crash site, or the crash pod you see when making a knight. Or I can do that later and add in a size control parameter so the infobox stays reasonable. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 19:45, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:Oh! Since it's not exactly a mission, you probably shouldn't use the mission page format - treat it like a geographical area. Basically, if it doesn't have a card thing in the menu...ah, here, [[Moorcroft Manor]] is a good example of a geographical area page. That being said, I was planning on sprucing those up. I'd leave this mini project alone for now and focus on the new stuff. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 19:52, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:Oh! Since it's not exactly a mission, you probably shouldn't use the mission page format - treat it like a geographical area. Basically, if it doesn't have a card thing in the menu...ah, here, [[Moorcroft Manor]] is a good example of a geographical area page. That being said, I was planning on sprucing those up. I'd leave this mini project alone for now and focus on the new stuff. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 19:52, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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== Monster image centering broken ==
 
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:::Thank you, it looks way better now. By the way, [http://i.imgur.com/PiDc9hW.png this] is what it looked like for me before your edit. If it was showing up to the left for you, then the way I did it probably wasn't compatible with your browser. Your centered versions works for both of us, so that's good. ~[[User:Katmint|<b><font color="117FD9">katsy</font></b>]] 00:02, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:::Thank you, it looks way better now. By the way, [http://i.imgur.com/PiDc9hW.png this] is what it looked like for me before your edit. If it was showing up to the left for you, then the way I did it probably wasn't compatible with your browser. Your centered versions works for both of us, so that's good. ~[[User:Katmint|<b><font color="117FD9">katsy</font></b>]] 00:02, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 
::::Hurray-[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:08, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 
::::Hurray-[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:08, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
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==Mission Pages==
 
==Mission Pages==
 
Love the schematic way that it looks now. Really good job as always!
 
Love the schematic way that it looks now. Really good job as always!
 
I'm going to re-done the battle sprites missions with this new format, I dont think to find some trouble editing now, heh. By the way, A lot of icon levels use the 'Crossing the Chasm clockwork level', we can't do innecesary duplicates for every level that use that icon. http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:Gate-Crossing_The_Chasm.png. What do you propose to make it less confusing? - ''Sir Onox''
 
I'm going to re-done the battle sprites missions with this new format, I dont think to find some trouble editing now, heh. By the way, A lot of icon levels use the 'Crossing the Chasm clockwork level', we can't do innecesary duplicates for every level that use that icon. http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:Gate-Crossing_The_Chasm.png. What do you propose to make it less confusing? - ''Sir Onox''
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== elite orbs need ==
 
== elite orbs need ==
  
 
Novaster, if you could help me with getting 5 elite orbs, that would be extremely helpful because I have a 4 star hall of heroes and I need 5 more elite orbs to get through it[[User:1462|1462]] 00:19, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 
Novaster, if you could help me with getting 5 elite orbs, that would be extremely helpful because I have a 4 star hall of heroes and I need 5 more elite orbs to get through it[[User:1462|1462]] 00:19, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:Please keep this talk page about wiki matters, as it is on the wiki. You can mail me in-game about playing the game. Sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> so you get a timestamp. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 14:23, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:Please keep this talk page about wiki matters, as it is on the wiki. You can mail me in-game about playing the game. Sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> so you get a timestamp. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 14:23, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
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==Minecraft==
 
==Minecraft==
  
 
If you would love to play games like minecraft with friends then you can make a server on minecraft and use spiral knights to tell me it or you can join my server and I can tell you the server information with spiral knights mail -[[User:1462|1462]] 02:04, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 
If you would love to play games like minecraft with friends then you can make a server on minecraft and use spiral knights to tell me it or you can join my server and I can tell you the server information with spiral knights mail -[[User:1462|1462]] 02:04, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:We'll see. I'm very tired right now (it's late where I am). My IGN is Novaster like it is here. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:06, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:We'll see. I'm very tired right now (it's late where I am). My IGN is Novaster like it is here. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:06, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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==Icons & Stuff==
 
==Icons & Stuff==
 
Well, I like the 'generic' gate icons, seems that there is a lot of work to do reconstructing the old mission articles, specially with the progression part.
 
Well, I like the 'generic' gate icons, seems that there is a lot of work to do reconstructing the old mission articles, specially with the progression part.
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:Yes yes! Im glad that im not the only one who thinks that the list of missions article looks a bit chaotic now. Maybe the "no-adventure missions" deserve his own article too, but yup, I agree that people are interested in the SK lore so maybe we should do those kind of missions too. Tell me when you finish the changes for the missions structure, it is very tedious re-editing the old missions all of time x_x - ''Sir Onox''
 
:Yes yes! Im glad that im not the only one who thinks that the list of missions article looks a bit chaotic now. Maybe the "no-adventure missions" deserve his own article too, but yup, I agree that people are interested in the SK lore so maybe we should do those kind of missions too. Tell me when you finish the changes for the missions structure, it is very tedious re-editing the old missions all of time x_x - ''Sir Onox''
 
::Huh. I thought I updated every page that used the missioninfo template with the changes. Did I miss something? -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 09:46, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 
::Huh. I thought I updated every page that used the missioninfo template with the changes. Did I miss something? -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 09:46, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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== a mail you sent me on spiral knights ==
 
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::::I generally don't read user pages on the wiki unless it's by request or they need to be edited for ToS reasons. I don't have time for that kind of thing with all the work I do here and irl. The wiki isn't a social blog and user pages have that flavor. This still doesn't excuse begging. "Follow-up notes" like these are not necessary. The point of my lecture above was so that you make polite, mature mails introducing yourself with lots of information. The world does not revolve around single people, you can't expect everyone to be on the ball about everything all the time. Please stop contacting me. The only reason I contact you is to deal with mistakes and damage you've done. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 09:32, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 
::::I generally don't read user pages on the wiki unless it's by request or they need to be edited for ToS reasons. I don't have time for that kind of thing with all the work I do here and irl. The wiki isn't a social blog and user pages have that flavor. This still doesn't excuse begging. "Follow-up notes" like these are not necessary. The point of my lecture above was so that you make polite, mature mails introducing yourself with lots of information. The world does not revolve around single people, you can't expect everyone to be on the ball about everything all the time. Please stop contacting me. The only reason I contact you is to deal with mistakes and damage you've done. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 09:32, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
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== Issue with dialogue==
 
== Issue with dialogue==
 
Hey Novaster, do you mind helping me? I am tackling down the latest one, The Pioneers, but the issue is, after the 10th picture of dialogue it just stops showing the rest and i don't know why. Could you help? --[[User:Annevdw|Ciardha]] 15:32, 29 July 2015 (CEST)
 
Hey Novaster, do you mind helping me? I am tackling down the latest one, The Pioneers, but the issue is, after the 10th picture of dialogue it just stops showing the rest and i don't know why. Could you help? --[[User:Annevdw|Ciardha]] 15:32, 29 July 2015 (CEST)
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::Ok, I'll do that then. thanks! --[[User:Annevdw|Ciardha]] 15:42, 28 July 2015 (CEST)
 
::Ok, I'll do that then. thanks! --[[User:Annevdw|Ciardha]] 15:42, 28 July 2015 (CEST)
 
:::The only way I can think of atm to keep this from being a problem in extra long conversations is to use the dialogue mimic template individually each time, but then you have a less organized thing and a lot of calls. All I know of coding is self taught...someone with a paid education and/or more experience, and and a willing heart to do a moneyless task, could make the code less chunky, but, I suppose as long as it works it's okay. :) --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 13:46, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 
:::The only way I can think of atm to keep this from being a problem in extra long conversations is to use the dialogue mimic template individually each time, but then you have a less organized thing and a lot of calls. All I know of coding is self taught...someone with a paid education and/or more experience, and and a willing heart to do a moneyless task, could make the code less chunky, but, I suppose as long as it works it's okay. :) --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 13:46, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
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== Hey :) ==
 
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:::Sorry, the English wiki is all I have time for, and I can count the number of Spanish words I know on one hand, so even if I had time, I wouldn't be able to do much at all. You'll want to brush up on coding technique and parser functions used by [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki MediaWiki]. A lot of problems would stem from integration issues, redirects, and subpage use, which are established on the English wiki and flow into each other easily, but I imagine are lacking in other languages. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:33, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 
:::Sorry, the English wiki is all I have time for, and I can count the number of Spanish words I know on one hand, so even if I had time, I wouldn't be able to do much at all. You'll want to brush up on coding technique and parser functions used by [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki MediaWiki]. A lot of problems would stem from integration issues, redirects, and subpage use, which are established on the English wiki and flow into each other easily, but I imagine are lacking in other languages. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:33, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 
::::Oh, yeah i know dont worry ^^, i did not expect u to help me with the spanish wiki but more like, what i did wrong with the table's code and wow, that will take time to read haha, but i trough mediawiki was the same for all (english's/spanish's media wiki) i would have to check it because, even putting the same code (in english) in the spanish wiki, i get that error (the # after click show/hide). I will have to read about that because, even if it doesnt do anything bad, it is pretty annoying xD. Anyways, thx alot for the advice and keep up witht eh good work ^^! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 03:17, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 
::::Oh, yeah i know dont worry ^^, i did not expect u to help me with the spanish wiki but more like, what i did wrong with the table's code and wow, that will take time to read haha, but i trough mediawiki was the same for all (english's/spanish's media wiki) i would have to check it because, even putting the same code (in english) in the spanish wiki, i get that error (the # after click show/hide). I will have to read about that because, even if it doesnt do anything bad, it is pretty annoying xD. Anyways, thx alot for the advice and keep up witht eh good work ^^! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 03:17, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
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== Thanks! ==
 
== Thanks! ==
  
 
Thank you for cleaning up my discussion page, it's easier to figure out what's pending now!  I'm a little swamped at the moment so it's going to take me some time to get through the list. I'll update as soon as I'm able to take care of those pending requests. Thanks again! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 19:53, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 
Thank you for cleaning up my discussion page, it's easier to figure out what's pending now!  I'm a little swamped at the moment so it's going to take me some time to get through the list. I'll update as soon as I'm able to take care of those pending requests. Thanks again! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 19:53, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
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== About Category's Themes ==
 
== About Category's Themes ==
 
I just notice, while checking the Biohazard's category that it is in the Vile Theme, then i fix the pages without the number and notice the [[Venom Veiler]] isnt in the category but its alchemy path it is. The Venom Vailer is in the Poison Theme (which just have 4 items) and the color pattern's page said Vile and Poison are the same, why? Also, the Dread Venom Striker, the second item in the Poison Theme, also have the its 4* in the Vile Theme. It is a mistake? Just in case i ask here, it is better than leaving notes in the summaries right xD? --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 06:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 
I just notice, while checking the Biohazard's category that it is in the Vile Theme, then i fix the pages without the number and notice the [[Venom Veiler]] isnt in the category but its alchemy path it is. The Venom Vailer is in the Poison Theme (which just have 4 items) and the color pattern's page said Vile and Poison are the same, why? Also, the Dread Venom Striker, the second item in the Poison Theme, also have the its 4* in the Vile Theme. It is a mistake? Just in case i ask here, it is better than leaving notes in the summaries right xD? --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 06:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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::They should be fixed now, thank you. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 06:31, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 
::They should be fixed now, thank you. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 06:31, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 
:::A lot of this stuff is sometimes subject to opinion, unless you're using color ID mapping. It's all about grouping things together so users can find them, so, sometimes we have to "guess" what a user is looking for, but we do try to keep it based on the color IDs. Thanks for the help, and do what you think is best - the wiki will be able to heal mistakes. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 06:35, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 
:::A lot of this stuff is sometimes subject to opinion, unless you're using color ID mapping. It's all about grouping things together so users can find them, so, sometimes we have to "guess" what a user is looking for, but we do try to keep it based on the color IDs. Thanks for the help, and do what you think is best - the wiki will be able to heal mistakes. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 06:35, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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==Equipment Galleries==
 
==Equipment Galleries==
 
Oh, well i know u keep it as low priority now because just some weapons have gallery but i trough the category was already done. My mistake xD. Actually it seems better now (both categories). I will start doing it xD sometimes i dont want to start making a mess but u are right about healing these mistakes haha. Btw, i have some "Equipped.png" for guns (the fix angle) but havent cut them yet, same for some preview's image. When i done with that i will send u the link just in case so i can upload them here and complete some galleries. But i want to ask, how can u do APNG? Fraps? APNG is something new for me xD. '''P.D''': I know explain me the process may be long but google can help me with that xD just want to know which program to start and thx for the reply ^^! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 07:53, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 
Oh, well i know u keep it as low priority now because just some weapons have gallery but i trough the category was already done. My mistake xD. Actually it seems better now (both categories). I will start doing it xD sometimes i dont want to start making a mess but u are right about healing these mistakes haha. Btw, i have some "Equipped.png" for guns (the fix angle) but havent cut them yet, same for some preview's image. When i done with that i will send u the link just in case so i can upload them here and complete some galleries. But i want to ask, how can u do APNG? Fraps? APNG is something new for me xD. '''P.D''': I know explain me the process may be long but google can help me with that xD just want to know which program to start and thx for the reply ^^! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 07:53, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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::::Yeah i saw them after i saw the Divine Avenger (i like to see them spining over and over for no reason xD), thats why i make the sword list first, but only one handgun tooltip is done (Argent Peacemaker) (btw havent check armour/helmet/shield/etc) and the mayority of the guns are in Hall of Heroes/Craft Machine/Auction House so it wouldnt be that hard to get all the tooltips (after i find out how it works xD!) and for the basic/charge att i can do the ones i got (not alot but Cold Iron is on the list xD) and i can ask my friends to help me because i know they have some weapons i dont. To the image, we can use any costume/armour/etc? i will not use shield but dunno which costume/armour can i use, havent see any "format" but i prefer to ask. Nite :D! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 09:02, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 
::::Yeah i saw them after i saw the Divine Avenger (i like to see them spining over and over for no reason xD), thats why i make the sword list first, but only one handgun tooltip is done (Argent Peacemaker) (btw havent check armour/helmet/shield/etc) and the mayority of the guns are in Hall of Heroes/Craft Machine/Auction House so it wouldnt be that hard to get all the tooltips (after i find out how it works xD!) and for the basic/charge att i can do the ones i got (not alot but Cold Iron is on the list xD) and i can ask my friends to help me because i know they have some weapons i dont. To the image, we can use any costume/armour/etc? i will not use shield but dunno which costume/armour can i use, havent see any "format" but i prefer to ask. Nite :D! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 09:02, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 
:I try to wear cobalt, since everyone can get their hands on it easily. It's a basic, consistent thing, and people shouldn't spend money on volunteer work, even if it's virtual monies. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 15:11, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 
:I try to wear cobalt, since everyone can get their hands on it easily. It's a basic, consistent thing, and people shouldn't spend money on volunteer work, even if it's virtual monies. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 15:11, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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:::::::::Apologies for earlier misunderstandings - we can easily just use CTRL+F to find items that are there/missing and would really need to do this no matter the organization due to the large number of items - the internal order isn't a big deal, whatever is easier. This will take some time for us to check through. I normally like to get a bunch of people looking for error checks once something is polished and whatnot. But it won't be polished until we work through the uh..."mini templates" (mostly the vendor stuff) within the master template. So it will still be a while (days?) before we implement. Really excellent work. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:27, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 
:::::::::Apologies for earlier misunderstandings - we can easily just use CTRL+F to find items that are there/missing and would really need to do this no matter the organization due to the large number of items - the internal order isn't a big deal, whatever is easier. This will take some time for us to check through. I normally like to get a bunch of people looking for error checks once something is polished and whatnot. But it won't be polished until we work through the uh..."mini templates" (mostly the vendor stuff) within the master template. So it will still be a while (days?) before we implement. Really excellent work. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:27, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 
::::::::::Thx ^^! haha and its okay, remember im not native so i get lost trying to explain my ways in english xD And even when i like the "Helmet/4star" i saw the page weights 51kb, and after 31kb its get laggy to edit, so with "Helmet/5star" and the rest of the title would be heavier. I just wanted to know if im going well but seems like i am :)! So im going to continue adding the reward's mission, bundles and Basil's only template to guns from gunnerupdate cuz i already added the others i know. Basil (not only) items would be the last. If u do the base, i can add the info in the BazaarVendor. Meanwhile maybe i can work in the images i was telling u about (equipped and preview, i used [[Spiral Tailed Helm]] and [[Spiral Draped Armor]] for those cuz is my noob's outfit xD After i got some i will leave u the link :) Thx again! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 21:43, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 
::::::::::Thx ^^! haha and its okay, remember im not native so i get lost trying to explain my ways in english xD And even when i like the "Helmet/4star" i saw the page weights 51kb, and after 31kb its get laggy to edit, so with "Helmet/5star" and the rest of the title would be heavier. I just wanted to know if im going well but seems like i am :)! So im going to continue adding the reward's mission, bundles and Basil's only template to guns from gunnerupdate cuz i already added the others i know. Basil (not only) items would be the last. If u do the base, i can add the info in the BazaarVendor. Meanwhile maybe i can work in the images i was telling u about (equipped and preview, i used [[Spiral Tailed Helm]] and [[Spiral Draped Armor]] for those cuz is my noob's outfit xD After i got some i will leave u the link :) Thx again! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 21:43, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
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==Basil==
 
==Basil==
 
Updating/checking [[Basil]] is going to be a monster. If you look at his page, I added a possible format to the 7-2 "In Cold Blood" mission, as part of what we're working on with [[mission]] pages. Not sure if it should be used on the Basil page, or at all for the mission pages, but I think it fits and is slightly more informative (crown information is a pattern emphasized at the top of his page, so repeating it that much in his wares section seems a little odd to me). --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:52, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 
Updating/checking [[Basil]] is going to be a monster. If you look at his page, I added a possible format to the 7-2 "In Cold Blood" mission, as part of what we're working on with [[mission]] pages. Not sure if it should be used on the Basil page, or at all for the mission pages, but I think it fits and is slightly more informative (crown information is a pattern emphasized at the top of his page, so repeating it that much in his wares section seems a little odd to me). --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:52, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
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::Projects projects and moar projects. I don't have a lot of time today to do wiki things, and probably won't tomorrow (I might), and I smell a promotion on wednesday based on previous release patterns, so we/I'll get to making the template format for this smooth when I can. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:37, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 
::Projects projects and moar projects. I don't have a lot of time today to do wiki things, and probably won't tomorrow (I might), and I smell a promotion on wednesday based on previous release patterns, so we/I'll get to making the template format for this smooth when I can. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:37, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 
:::Ah dont worry :) do it when u can. I know it can take its time to make the code. Right now im going to work in the images, and fix some vendor's page (i am going to try that "sandbox" i have seen xD) i took some screen to cut the image and leave them trasnparent, dunno if thats planned? maybe i will traslating more for the spanish wiki. I let the main list as standby cuz i want to help here, and when finish, traslate it to the spanish --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 22:49, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 
:::Ah dont worry :) do it when u can. I know it can take its time to make the code. Right now im going to work in the images, and fix some vendor's page (i am going to try that "sandbox" i have seen xD) i took some screen to cut the image and leave them trasnparent, dunno if thats planned? maybe i will traslating more for the spanish wiki. I let the main list as standby cuz i want to help here, and when finish, traslate it to the spanish --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 22:49, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
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== Acquisition v.0.1 ==
 
== Acquisition v.0.1 ==
  
 
I already upload the acquisition templates, i didnt do misc because i dont have any yet but others are fine. I did a minor error in the note at the beginning (like, i copy past and most of them said LIST of ARMOR but is no biggie) but u may change it, i leave it just in case. Some items have Basil and some others Basil + In Lobby but, mostly, basil's template is the last thing left, like i said, i just did the ones i know they sell in basil for sure, maybe some bundles but i will check it tomorrow after u too check it. Now its too late and im going to sleep. Have a nice nite~ ('''P.D:''' u can write me here or in my talk page) --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 03:36, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 
I already upload the acquisition templates, i didnt do misc because i dont have any yet but others are fine. I did a minor error in the note at the beginning (like, i copy past and most of them said LIST of ARMOR but is no biggie) but u may change it, i leave it just in case. Some items have Basil and some others Basil + In Lobby but, mostly, basil's template is the last thing left, like i said, i just did the ones i know they sell in basil for sure, maybe some bundles but i will check it tomorrow after u too check it. Now its too late and im going to sleep. Have a nice nite~ ('''P.D:''' u can write me here or in my talk page) --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 03:36, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:Yeah! Wow that's a lot of work, thank you. Nice job. Have a nice rest. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 03:54, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:Yeah! Wow that's a lot of work, thank you. Nice job. Have a nice rest. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 03:54, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
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::::Acquistion Template is almost done (after i add bundles and check each just in case) but still Basil is left, just some items have Basil template. So thats why i asked about recipe/lobby --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 21:05, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::::Acquistion Template is almost done (after i add bundles and check each just in case) but still Basil is left, just some items have Basil template. So thats why i asked about recipe/lobby --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 21:05, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:::::Oh well, if that's what's stopping us then do it. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:07, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:::::Oh well, if that's what's stopping us then do it. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:07, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
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:Div style (⌐■_■). --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:26, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:Div style (⌐■_■). --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:26, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::Yeeeaaaaahhhh --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 23:57, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::Yeeeaaaaahhhh --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 23:57, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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::Yeah i put the tags in the ones i saw that didnt link anywhere but others (show here) didnt know if add delete or just icon or etc :). --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 22:20, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::Yeah i put the tags in the ones i saw that didnt link anywhere but others (show here) didnt know if add delete or just icon or etc :). --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 22:20, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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:I did the recon cuz maybe it can be useful for artifacts, i didnt know Arkus used it. But this can work in a future, and all look the same but with their icon and color. Glad u like them x3! I will upload them asap~ --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 22:23, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:I did the recon cuz maybe it can be useful for artifacts, i didnt know Arkus used it. But this can work in a future, and all look the same but with their icon and color. Glad u like them x3! I will upload them asap~ --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 22:23, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::Is so good ;n; --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::Is so good ;n; --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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:Yas. We should always check each others' work. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:52, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:Yas. We should always check each others' work. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:52, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::Yeah :D! Thx ^^! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 00:01, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::Yeah :D! Thx ^^! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 00:01, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
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== Bored... ==
 
== Bored... ==
  
 
I'm bored... Any projects or something I can help out with? --[[User:Snarbylord|Snarbylord]] 05:08, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 
I'm bored... Any projects or something I can help out with? --[[User:Snarbylord|Snarbylord]] 05:08, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:Preferably not a page I'm currently working on. This leads to edit conflicts. Check "recent changes" before diving in. There's always [[things to do]]! --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 17:19, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:Preferably not a page I'm currently working on. This leads to edit conflicts. Check "recent changes" before diving in. There's always [[things to do]]! --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 17:19, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
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:::Ah Grimalkin definitely don't belong in "rare" - rare creatures are the monsters that have a chance to replace other entities. Grimalkin (and the harvester) are more similar to weather effects than anything else, in that they are powerful forces we just have to hunker down and deal with, and they don't drop things. Grimalkin can't be targeted, so I can't tell what family they would even belong to (not that it matters since we can't damage them), I'm guessing undead for obvious reasons, but we can't put the lil icon next to their names as it's misleading. Perhaps the generalized monster icon? As far as mistakes go, yes, they're sneaky and please find them and destroy them. Thanks for implementing it btw. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 10:53, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:::Ah Grimalkin definitely don't belong in "rare" - rare creatures are the monsters that have a chance to replace other entities. Grimalkin (and the harvester) are more similar to weather effects than anything else, in that they are powerful forces we just have to hunker down and deal with, and they don't drop things. Grimalkin can't be targeted, so I can't tell what family they would even belong to (not that it matters since we can't damage them), I'm guessing undead for obvious reasons, but we can't put the lil icon next to their names as it's misleading. Perhaps the generalized monster icon? As far as mistakes go, yes, they're sneaky and please find them and destroy them. Thanks for implementing it btw. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 10:53, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::::hahah well im getting used to it. --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 23:23, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::::hahah well im getting used to it. --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 23:23, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
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::Everything. Fix the entire wiki, go. Cure cancer first. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::Everything. Fix the entire wiki, go. Cure cancer first. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:57, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:::Hahhahahahaha xD! But ok then, going to medicine's school right now! It might take me a while though *sound of the motor of a car* --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 02:07, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:::Hahhahahahaha xD! But ok then, going to medicine's school right now! It might take me a while though *sound of the motor of a car* --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 02:07, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
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:Restrict the notes to the level area itself. Some of those pertain to the Royal Jelly monster only, not really the Royal Jelly Palace. I can take care of this if you want. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:34, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:Restrict the notes to the level area itself. Some of those pertain to the Royal Jelly monster only, not really the Royal Jelly Palace. I can take care of this if you want. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:34, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::Ohhh u are right, im talking about the notes of the mission itself, not the Boss *facepalm*. Well we can do as i was doing, i do what i can and then u check if theres something need to be changed. Im going to add monsters and exploration now :) just checking info ^^ Thx :) --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 02:08, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::Ohhh u are right, im talking about the notes of the mission itself, not the Boss *facepalm*. Well we can do as i was doing, i do what i can and then u check if theres something need to be changed. Im going to add monsters and exploration now :) just checking info ^^ Thx :) --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 02:08, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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::::Aye Aye~ then :3. I was taking note of what is missing so i can start filling all the lost info ^^! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 02:20, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::::Aye Aye~ then :3. I was taking note of what is missing so i can start filling all the lost info ^^! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 02:20, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:::::Okay, I will work on something pretty soon (after IRL packing for the trip and whatnot) that will work for complicated areas such as danger missions. I think we can still stick to the gallery format with arenas - see [[The Gauntlet#Fourth Floor|"The Last Stand" of The Gauntlet]] for an example of something as complex as something should get (if even that) without the template I'll make later today. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 14:45, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:::::Okay, I will work on something pretty soon (after IRL packing for the trip and whatnot) that will work for complicated areas such as danger missions. I think we can still stick to the gallery format with arenas - see [[The Gauntlet#Fourth Floor|"The Last Stand" of The Gauntlet]] for an example of something as complex as something should get (if even that) without the template I'll make later today. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 14:45, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
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== PrizeBox ==
 
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O-M-G you do all that edit when a prize box is out?. I think i did it good and cover all about the autumn prize box. If you say there was no mistakes i will be like ''"yay~ im learning"'' haha keep having fun in your vacations~ --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 04:13, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 
O-M-G you do all that edit when a prize box is out?. I think i did it good and cover all about the autumn prize box. If you say there was no mistakes i will be like ''"yay~ im learning"'' haha keep having fun in your vacations~ --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 04:13, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. It's a lot of work, most of it behind the scenes. Especially the redirects, which I dislike very much. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. It's a lot of work, most of it behind the scenes. Especially the redirects, which I dislike very much. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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==NPC pages==

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Please keep edits here limited to things about the wiki that I've done, or that you are very sure I can help with. I am not an employee, just a very overly enthusiastic gamer and wiki editor. All my work is volunteer - and I value every moment :). That being said, I'll be happy to help if I can. -Novaster 16:32, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

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NPC pages

Notes now that we've run into a few obstacles:

  • Noticed that appearances are lengthy and complex. They really shouldn't go in the infobox. Moving them to the main article in their own section is better. Besides, the picture in the infobox is worth 1000 words. Most other wiki's I've seen do things this way. Of course, for certain NPCs, we will use a template to make listing equipment easier.
  • The infobox entry needs to be simplified so monster species can be specified, for example, "spookat" instead of "monster."
  • List vs. Individual: somehow clarify... just think of NPCs as weapons. We have a list of each weapon type: bomb, handgun, sword. Each weapon has its own page. "leviathan blade" is a "sword," which is a "weapon." "Virgil" is a "spiral warden," which is a "type of NPC." --Novaster 23:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Apparence: Knights are the one who should have them in the infobox, for Gremlins need only the items extra (Nonna, has a Flower an a Mask for example), for Strangers it is not that necessary i guess just add the mask "symbol" and the "main color" and in case other thing (like Bootshuze how kinda looks like a gremlin) add it but only in general, for monsters, just add which family it is because in appearance, almost all monster are the same.
Infobox: Agreed.
List vs individual: A main list of NPCs could be fine and can be sorted like missions which have Rank mission, Prestige mission, Expansion Missions and arcade mission, in a NPC list would be Knight, Strangers, Monsters, and Bosses.
For an extra thing, i would like a "title" parameter. The Role parameter would not be shown in the page but help to add the category but the Title would show. Like Archilus, he would be Knight: Elemental Defender but his role parameter would have vendor and the category would be added. For those without tittle a switch can be added to show the role then. --Hikaru 00:17, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
PD: the px in the mugshot should be fixed, i tried but faild EDIT: Cool! thx~ but isnt a tiny? though it would have the width of the info box. Anyways when you come back we can talk it better ~ --Hikaru 00:17, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
It currently matches the basic infobox dimensions (such as Bolted Vee default, which is 201x222px), but for some reason the template doesn't like #x#px restriction. IMO the Basil pic is now the perfect size, but for pics that are erm...out of date, regarding your great transparency and isolation work, will not look so hot. Bulky isn't looking happy, for example, but when he's isolated like Basil is, I think it will be a good size. This works pretty well for overworld shots such as Edger too, but I think I/we should try harder to make sure the overworld pic dimensions are a square instead of a rectangle (which I didn't because Edger was larger than my standard capture), for various reasons. I suppose the left/right padding is a bit much and could be looked into (all that empty blue space to the left/right of the pictures in the infobox is what I'm referring to, a separate issue from image size, though they are related yes). EDIT: actually bleh they really should stay as they are, they reflect in-game size and the infobox can't be any skinnier for various text squishing reasons. And it didn't bother me until I thought maybe it was a problem, but then I remembered that some NPC portraits are really just cut off like that (especially Vanabutt). And yeah I really should sleep...had a lot of downtime today because of the thing that cut the vacation short, which is a family medical emergency. --Novaster 02:19, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Bulky indeed, looks pretty sad lol, but there will be the event sooner so i can take screen yay~ Im going to sleep. Hope it wasnt that bad! (your medical emergency) take care~ --Hikaru 02:39, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes and the px. EDIT: fixed the px issue...but not in the way I really wanted to, oh well. Regarding the infobox, it really has to be consistent. We can't have appearance in the infobox just for knights, when every NPC has an appearance that can be described (which is different than other topics which not every entity has, such as "depth range" not being a thing for dialogue missions). It makes finding the same type of information a real hassle, and is the reason people are so unhappy with many equipment pages, which were slapped together in the past with inconsistent ToC sections as well as inconsistent ToC order. Here are some examples from other wikis, regarding appearances (I don't necessarily agree with the format of these wikis, just showing the description of how they look in paragraph/partial list form is the point here):

I regret not using this format with the page format I set up from the start, as it seems to be the proper thing to do. --Novaster 00:50, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

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