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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| Neutral || align="left" style="background-color:#E765C6"| Slime || align="left"| Jelly Cubes
 
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| Neutral || align="left" style="background-color:#E765C6"| Slime || align="left"| Lichen (Colony)
 
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| align="left" style="background-color:#FFD7A2"| Strong || align="left" style="background-color:#9C8A73"| Construct || align="left"| Mecha Knights
 
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| Neutral || align="left" style="background-color:#E765C6"| Slime || align="left"| Polyp
 
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'''Notes:'''
 
'''Notes:'''
 
*Gun deals the same damage as [[Talk:Voltech_Alchemer|voltech]] & [[Talk:Cryotech_Alchemer|cryotech]] alchemer.
 
*Gun deals the same damage as [[Talk:Voltech_Alchemer|voltech]] & [[Talk:Cryotech_Alchemer|cryotech]] alchemer.
*Fire damage seem to be the same as [[Talk:Pepperbox|pepperbox]]
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*Fire damage seem to be the same as [[Talk:Pepperbox|pepperbox]] & [[Talk:Firotech_Alchemer_Mk_II|firotech mk ii]]
 
*Damage pairs used on main page:
 
*Damage pairs used on main page:
 
**Weak: Gremlins / Wolvers
 
**Weak: Gremlins / Wolvers
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*D3 fire dmg vs wolvers need confirmation
 
*D3 fire dmg vs wolvers need confirmation
  
Last Updated: [[User:SK Tactics|SK Tactics]] 07:12, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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Last Updated: [[User:SK Tactics|SK Tactics]] 12:17, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 10:06, 7 December 2011

Raw Damage Values

Fire Damage (Up to 4 ticks)
Type Class Name Tier 1 Tier 2 Tier 3
D01 D02 D03 D05 D06 D07 D09 D10 D11 D12 D14 D15 D16 D17 D19 D20 D21 D22 D24 D25 D26 D27 D28
Weak Beast Alpha Wolvers 5 7 19 24 31 39
Neutral Slime Blast Cubes 10 41 44
Weak Beast Chromalisks 4 16 21 23 27 30
Weak Gremlin Demos 4 12 24
Neutral Fiend Devilites
Neutral Fiend Greavers 24
Strong Construct Gun Puppies 5 7 9 13 14 19 24 31 34 36 39
Strong Undead Howlitzer 9 19 24 26
Neutral Slime Ice Cubes 48 60
Neutral Slime Jelly Cubes 6 8 10 19 22 25 37 41 44
Strong Undead Kats 7 14 16 18 24 29
Neutral Slime Lichen 7 10 18 27 34 45 56
Neutral Slime Lichen (Colony) 6 8 15 22 28 37 47
Neutral Slime Lichen (Giant Colony) 5 7 13 19 24 31
Neutral Slime Lichen (Quicksilver) 7 16
Neutral Slime Lichen (Toxigel) 22 25 28
Strong Construct Lumbers 6 10 15 22 28 31 37 41 44 47 47
Strong Construct Mecha Knights 4 16 23 27 34
Weak Gremlin Menders 4 5 7 11 12 14 16 18 20 24 27 29 29
Neutral Slime Polyp 5 7 13 19 24 31
Strong Construct Retrodes 5 9 13 14 19 24 26 34 36 39
Neutral Slime Rock Jellies
Strong Construct Scuttlebots 5 9 13 14 19 34 36 39
Weak Gremlin Thwackers 4 10 12 14 18 20 24 26 27 29
Neutral Fiend Trojans 4 20 29
Neutral Fiend Wings 5 10 11 14 18 20 24 26 27 29
Weak Beast Wolvers 5 7 19 24 26 31 34 39
Strong Undead Zombies 13 21 27 30 34 38 45

Weak = Versus Beasts and Gremlins
Neutral = Versus Fiends & Slimes
Strong = Versus Constructs & Undead

Weak Neutral Strong
Normal Charge Normal Charge Normal Charge
Depth 1 3 4 11 22 16 27
Depth 2 3 5 11 21 16 28
Depth 3 4 5 12 22 18 30
Clockworks Terminal - The Crossroads of Adventure
Depth 5 5 7 15 27 22 38
Depth 6 5 7 17 29 24 42
Depth 7 5 8 17 29 24 44
Moorcroft Manor - Town of Restless Spirits
Depth 9 8 12 28 54 43 74
Depth 10 9 13 29 55 45 78
Depth 11 9 13 28 53 44 78
Depth 12 10 14 30 58 48 85
Clockworks Terminal - The Crossroads of Adventure
Depth 14 10 14 29 50 44 81
Depth 15 9 14 28 48 41 78
Depth 16 9 14 27 46 39 76
Depth 17 9 14 26 44 37 74
Emberlight - Town of Gremlin Outcasts
Depth 19 33 66
Depth 20
Depth 21
Depth 22 9 14 23 36 30 54
Clockworks Terminal - The Crossroads of Adventure
Depth 24
Depth 25
Depth 26
Depth 27
Depth 28
The Core - The Path is Sealed

Notes:

  • Gun deals the same damage as voltech & cryotech alchemer.
  • Fire damage seem to be the same as pepperbox & firotech mk ii
  • Damage pairs used on main page:
    • Weak: Gremlins / Wolvers
    • Neutral: Fiends / Ice Cubes
    • Strong: Kats / Zombies
  • Oilers take less damage when set alight.
  • Lichen variants take different amount of fire damage from normal lichens.
  • Ice Cubes take more fire damage compared to Jelly cube.
  • D3 fire dmg vs wolvers need confirmation

Last Updated: SK Tactics 12:17, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

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