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== Damage ==
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== Raw Damage Values ==
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{| border="1" align="right" style="text-align:center" class="sortable"
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|+ '''Thaw Damage (Damage dealt when Freeze status is allowed to expire naturally)'''
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|- style="background-color:#ADFFAD"
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! rowspan="2"|Type !! rowspan="2"|Class !! rowspan="2"|Name !! class="unsortable" rowspan="32" style="background-color:#000000"|
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! colspan="7" class="unsortable"|Tier 1 !! class="unsortable" rowspan="32" style="background-color:#000000"|
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! colspan="9" class="unsortable"|Tier 2 !! class="unsortable" rowspan="32" style="background-color:#000000"|
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! colspan="10" class="unsortable" |Tier 3 !! class="unsortable" rowspan="32" style="background-color:#000000"|
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|- class="unsortable" style="background-color:#ADFFAD"
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! D01 !! D02 !! D03 !! rowspan="31" style="background-color:#000000"| !! D05 !! D06 !! D07
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! D09 !! D10 !! D11 !! D12 !! rowspan="31" style="background-color:#000000"| !! D14 !! D15 !! D16 !! D17
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! D19 !! D20 !! D21 !! D22 !! rowspan="31" style="background-color:#000000"| !! D24 !! D25 !! D26 !! D27 !! D28
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#52344A"| 6 - Very Resistant || align="left" style="background-color:#E7BE4A"| Beast || align="left"| Alpha Wolvers
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|  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  || 42 || 42
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#315173"| 3 - Slightly Weak || align="left" style="background-color:#E765C6"| Slime || align="left"| Blast Cubes
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#315173"| 3 - Slightly Weak || align="left" style="background-color:#E7BE4A"| Beast || align="left"| Chromalisks
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|  || 21 - 24  || 28 - ?  || 44 ||  ||
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|  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#EF9A42"| Gremlin || align="left"| Demos
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|  ||  ||  ||  || 51 ||  ||  || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#315173"| 3 - Slightly Weak || align="left" style="background-color:#294994"| Fiend || align="left"| Devilites
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|  || 24 || 31 ||  ||  ||
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#294994"| Fiend || align="left"| Greavers
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#9C8A73"| Construct || align="left"| Gun Puppies
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| 15 ||  ||  ||  ||  || 
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|  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  || 51 || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#B5BAD6"| Undead || align="left"| Howlitzer
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|  || 21 ||  || 36 - 39  ||  || 51
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#315173"| 3 - Slightly Weak || align="left" style="background-color:#E765C6"| Slime || align="left"| Jelly Cubes
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| 17 ||  ||  ||  || 51 || 52 - 58
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#52344A"| 6 - Very Resistant || align="left" style="background-color:#B5BAD6"| Undead || align="left"| Kats
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| 12 || 17 || 22 || ? - 32  ||  || 39 - 42
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#732C10"| 1 - Very Weak || align="left" style="background-color:#E765C6"| Slime || align="left"| Lichen
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|  ||  ||  ||  ||  || 
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|  || 58 || 58 || 58 ||  ||  ||  || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#315173"| 3 - Slightly Weak || align="left" style="background-color:#E765C6"| Slime || align="left"| Lichen (Colony)
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#E765C6"| Slime || align="left"| Lichen (Giant Colony)
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#52344A"| 6 - Very Resistant || align="left" style="background-color:#E765C6"| Slime || align="left"| Lichen (Oiler)
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#FFD7A2"| 2 - Weak || align="left" style="background-color:#E765C6"| Slime || align="left"| Lichen (Quicksilver)
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#315173"| 3 - Slightly Weak || align="left" style="background-color:#E765C6"| Slime || align="left"| Lichen (Toxigel)
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|  ||  ||  ||  || 51 || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#9C8A73"| Construct || align="left"| Lumbers
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|  || 21 ||  ||  ||  || 
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| 51 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#A09C99"| 5 - Resistant || align="left" style="background-color:#9C8A73"| Construct || align="left"| Mecha Knights
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#EF9A42"| Gremlin || align="left"| Menders
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|  ||  ||  ||  || 45 || 
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| 51 || 51 ||  ||  || 51 || 51 || 51 || 51
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#E765C6"| Slime || align="left"| Polyp
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| ? - 15  || 20 - ?  || 25 - 27  ||  ||  || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#B5BAD6"| Undead || align="left"| Phantoms
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#9C8A73"| Construct || align="left"| Retrodes
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| 51 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  || 51 || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#315173"| 3 - Slightly Weak || align="left" style="background-color:#E765C6"| Slime || align="left"| Rock Jellies
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| 17 ||  ||  ||  ||  || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#EF9A42"| Gremlin || align="left"| Scorchers
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|  ||  ||  ||  || 51 ||  ||  || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#9C8A73"| Construct || align="left"| Scuttlebots
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| 51 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#EF9A42"| Gremlin || align="left"| Thwackers
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|  ||  ||  ||  || 51 ||  ||  || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#294994"| Fiend || align="left"| Trojans
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|  ||  ||  ||  ||  || 51
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|  ||  ||  ||  || 51 ||  ||  || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#C6F6FF"| 4 - Average || align="left" style="background-color:#294994"| Fiend || align="left"| Wings
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|  || 21 || 27 ||  || 42 - 45  || 
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|  ||  ||  ||  || 51 ||  || 51 || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#52344A"| 6 - Very Resistant || align="left" style="background-color:#E7BE4A"| Beast || align="left"| Wolvers
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| 11 - 12  || 16 - 17  || 21 - 22  ||  ||  || 
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|  || 42 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  || 
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|-
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| align="left" style="background-color:#52344A"| 6 - Very Resistant || align="left" style="background-color:#B5BAD6"| Undead || align="left"| Zombies
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|  || 17 || 22 || 30 - 32  || 34 - 37  || 42
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|  ||  || 42 || 42 ||  ||  ||  || 
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|-
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|}
  
Filled in damage values for floors 1 - 3 of Stratum 1 & 4 - 6 of Stratum 2. (Excluding danger rooms)
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{| border="1" style="text-align:center"
<br />Exact stages where testing are done are:
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|- style="background-color:#ADFFAD"
:1) Wasteworks - Wild Path
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! colspan="1"|Tier 1 !! rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
:2) Graveyard - Where Monsters Fear to Tread
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! D01 !! D02 !! D03 !! rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
:3) Lichenous Lair - Toxic Union
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! D05 !! D06 !! D07 !! rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
:4) Power Complex - Mechanized Mile
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:5) Jigsaw Valley - Jade Tangle
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| align="left" | Normal Attack
:6) Blast Furnace [ Mechanized Mile
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| 11 || 12 || 14
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| 16 || 18 || 19
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| align="left" | Charge Attack
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| 26 || 28 || 31
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| 37 || 39 || 42
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|}
  
Thaw damage seems to differ even between members of the same monster family. e.g. Wolvers & Chromalisks.
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{| border="1" style="text-align:center"
<br />I thought I should leave a record here so that others may build upon my work.  
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|- style="background-color:#ADFFAD"
--[[User:SK Tactics|SK Tactics]] 25 July 2011
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! colspan="1"|Tier 2 !! rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
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! D09 !! D10 !! D11 !! D12 !! rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
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! D14 !! D15 !! D16 !! D17 !!  rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
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|-
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| align="left" | Normal Attack
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| ? || ? || 16 || 16
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| ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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| align="left" | Charge Attack
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| ? || ? || 30 || 29
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| ? || ? || ? || ?
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|}
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{| border="1" style="text-align:center"
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|- style="background-color:#ADFFAD"
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! colspan="1"|Tier 3 !! rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
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! D19 !! D20 !! D21 !! D22 !! rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
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! D24 !! D25 !! D26 !! D27 !! D28 !! rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
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|-
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| align="left" | Normal Attack
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| ? || ? || ? || ?
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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| align="left" | Charge Attack
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| ? || ? || ? || ?
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|}
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'''Notes:'''
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*Gun deals the same damage as [[Talk:Super_Stun_Gun|Super Stun Gun]] & [[Talk:Zapper|Zapper]].
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*Freeze same as [[Talk:Cryotech_Alchemer|Cryotech Alchemer]] within Tier 1.
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*Freeze values differ between normal shots and charged shots (old values are from charged shots)
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Last Updated: [[User:SK Tactics|SK Tactics]] 15:43, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 15:43, 1 December 2014

Raw Damage Values

Thaw Damage (Damage dealt when Freeze status is allowed to expire naturally)
Type Class Name Tier 1 Tier 2 Tier 3
D01 D02 D03 D05 D06 D07 D09 D10 D11 D12 D14 D15 D16 D17 D19 D20 D21 D22 D24 D25 D26 D27 D28
6 - Very Resistant Beast Alpha Wolvers 42 42
3 - Slightly Weak Slime Blast Cubes
3 - Slightly Weak Beast Chromalisks 21 - 24 28 - ? 44
4 - Average Gremlin Demos 51
3 - Slightly Weak Fiend Devilites 24 31
4 - Average Fiend Greavers
4 - Average Construct Gun Puppies 15 51
4 - Average Undead Howlitzer 21 36 - 39 51
3 - Slightly Weak Slime Jelly Cubes 17 51 52 - 58
6 - Very Resistant Undead Kats 12 17 22  ? - 32 39 - 42
1 - Very Weak Slime Lichen 58 58 58
3 - Slightly Weak Slime Lichen (Colony)
4 - Average Slime Lichen (Giant Colony)
6 - Very Resistant Slime Lichen (Oiler)
2 - Weak Slime Lichen (Quicksilver)
3 - Slightly Weak Slime Lichen (Toxigel) 51
4 - Average Construct Lumbers 21 51
5 - Resistant Construct Mecha Knights
4 - Average Gremlin Menders 45 51 51 51 51 51 51
4 - Average Slime Polyp  ? - 15 20 - ? 25 - 27
4 - Average Undead Phantoms
4 - Average Construct Retrodes 51 51
3 - Slightly Weak Slime Rock Jellies 17
4 - Average Gremlin Scorchers 51
4 - Average Construct Scuttlebots 51
4 - Average Gremlin Thwackers 51
4 - Average Fiend Trojans 51 51
4 - Average Fiend Wings 21 27 42 - 45 51 51
6 - Very Resistant Beast Wolvers 11 - 12 16 - 17 21 - 22 42
6 - Very Resistant Undead Zombies 17 22 30 - 32 34 - 37 42 42 42
Tier 1 D01 D02 D03 D05 D06 D07
Normal Attack 11 12 14 16 18 19
Charge Attack 26 28 31 37 39 42
Tier 2 D09 D10 D11 D12 D14 D15 D16 D17
Normal Attack  ?  ? 16 16  ?  ?  ?  ?
Charge Attack  ?  ? 30 29  ?  ?  ?  ?
Tier 3 D19 D20 D21 D22 D24 D25 D26 D27 D28
Normal Attack  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Charge Attack  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?

Notes:

  • Gun deals the same damage as Super Stun Gun & Zapper.
  • Freeze same as Cryotech Alchemer within Tier 1.
  • Freeze values differ between normal shots and charged shots (old values are from charged shots)

Last Updated: SK Tactics 15:43, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

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