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It's that simple :P Getting to the boss isn't though. Expect RT levels to be LAGGY. Ask a vet or higher for help if you need it, we love doing RT runs, and are more than happy to get you through them!}}}} | It's that simple :P Getting to the boss isn't though. Expect RT levels to be LAGGY. Ask a vet or higher for help if you need it, we love doing RT runs, and are more than happy to get you through them!}}}} | ||
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| + | Disclaimer- The tactics described here do not necessarily represent the best possible solution for every scenario. Different situations will require different strategies. My goal here is to give those strategies a recognizable definition so they can be more readily used during gameplay. I will include a recommended indicator in parenthesis for rapid communication. Buddy System- In my experience many of the tactics I will describe will work best with two player groups. If there are four players, designating which two people will work together should avoid confusion during battle. If there are three players, then one person could be designated for a role instead of a formation. Players should choose their buddy at the beginning of a stage. | ||
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| + | Defender- This adaptable role will designate players for keeping enemies away from his teammates either with shield bumps or strikes. | ||
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| + | Face to Face (face)- This planned formation is generally for gunners fighting wolvers, particularly in Tier 3. Theoretically, the gunners could face each other and constantly fire until all wolvers are dead since they will be constantly diving behind each gunner. | ||
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| + | Sword Pinning- This is less of a strategy than a very helpful team habit. If you strike an enemy so it is pushed towards the nearest wall, it will make it easier for your teammates to strike that enemy dealing damage much faster than chasing targets around. | ||
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| + | Shot Defense (sdf)- This adaptable formation can be applied to almost any situation, but is best used with funneled enemies. Defenders will be in the front of the formation shield bumping or striking any enemies that get close. Meanwhile shooting players will remain behind the guards. Since there will be less worry about defense, the shooters will be able to fire more consistantly and deal more damage while risking less than swordsmen who pursue a target. | ||
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| + | Charge Defense (cdf)- This adaptable formation is very similar to the shot defense formation. The defenders will generally have more work to do since they must wait for an attack to be charged instead of defending constant shots. I have used this most frequently in arenas to keep enemies away from whoever is using the divine avenger's charged attack. Front Man Circling (fcc)- This adaptable strategy is generally for fighting several enemies at once. It is usually best to agree which direction to rotate beforehand. In order to keep everyone close together, and to keep from interfering too much with the funneling, only the person at the front of the rotation should perform any attacks. Others should only use shield bumping or their most mobile attacks until they are at the front. | ||
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| + | Survival Mode (svm)- This planned strategy is for surviving very difficult situations while using minimal amounts of energy spent for reviving. For this to succeed every player adopts the safeguard role. Each player takes turns trying to defeat the scenario. When a player dies, the next player in the party list will confirm it is his turn then stand up and immediately give health to any players still incapacitated before attacking. It is also usually very helpful to tell a player when they have successfully transferred health to you when you are down.}} | ||
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Contents
About Us
We are a very friendly lot, who value friendship, working together, and having fun! We love to run, and help eachother out, doing boss runs like the Jelly King (Royal Jelly to you newer people), Vanaduke, and other runs! We believe in teamwork and having fun over everything else. We are a highly social group of people, but we're also professional players, we expect the best out of everyone, and we provide the same. That said, as long as we're having fun, we're set ^_^
This guild was formed out of the friendship bonds that grew during our time in Energy Knights Inc. We felt the need to grow and branched off into our own full guild.
Joining
Ask one of our members if you want to join, even if they're not an Officer or Guild Master, they'll be happy to send a message to an Officer or Guild Master asking to have you added to our guild. If you have a friend who wants to join, or you want to join, just let an officer or master know ^_^ Compose message is the best way to do this if no one is online.
If you're looking for a guild with a few good active players who will be willing to help you out, and you're willing to help out others too, this is the guild for you!
Minimum requirements are 3* gear. Read under Ranks for more details. If you are not 3* gear yet, read our adventuring section and guides down below.
Rules/Requirements
We have a few rules, but most are really simple.
We expect our members to be friendly, and to have fun. We highly encourage doing runs of all kinds together! We do expect members to be social with the guild. A simple hi or hello when you log in is usually enough, and saying hi to others as they log in as well. Also, we do promote being talkative in the guild chat (/g), or the officer chat (/o). No one will be kicked out of the guild for lack of talking, but being social is a necessity to being promoted to higher ranks ^_^
Once again, use guild chat, type: "/g and then your message here"
Also, it is expected that members understand all the ranks, and what they entail (below).
As a guild, we are expected to be friendly and helpful with each other. However, we do not want begging or spamming in this guild. To do so is a mark against this guild, internally and externally. Warnings will be given to those who beg, and will end in termination of guild membership if warnings are not heeded accordingly.
Anyone that can report anything like this happening in the guild would be appreciated if it could go towards Jace-Jarak, Starfire-light, Candance, or any other officer.
If bad behaviour within the guild occurs, then a strike system will be put in place, meaning you get 2 warnings, and then it's most likely a kick, but if the member is of a high rank it will be a demotion.
Ranks
Recruit
Recruit is the basic rank for all who join the guild. We expect you to be a minimum of all 3* gear or better. Allowances can be made, but this is the standard we expect. This is for all who are both new to the game and new to the guild. We expect you to be a nice social player, with a minimum of skill and game understanding. We will help you and teach you what we can, and will be happy to do so, but we do expect you to know how this game works, and be semi-decent at it.
Once in the guild, recruits have several days to a week to prove themselves to us that they're good people. If you're friendly and social, we'll keep you. If you're daft, or give us issues, you will be dismissed. We are more than happy to help out those who ask for it, and help you get better.
Members
For a recruit to petition to become a member, they must display several things, either to a veteran, or higher player. At a minimum, they must be able to display the following:
Knowledge of basic game mechanics. This includes how gates work, the different damage types, heat, how to use gate maps both in the arcade and while in a level (Click the gear in the top left of your screen while in a level). They must have basic understanding of how to play the game, and must demonstrate capability. There are no gear requirements for Members, however, we do STRONGLY prefer they have Tier 3 access (4* gear or better). If you need help getting here, do not hesitate to ask others, especially veterans and officers for help! They will do runs with you!
We expect our members to be team players. We also expect our members to be competent runners. You don't have to be a pro, but we do expect you not to be daft ~_^
If you wish to become a member, you must request it of a veteran player or higher. If they deem you worthy or capable of becoming a member, they will promote you, or will send a message to an officer or guild master and inform them of your ability. It's not hard, just do a run or two with them, and if they say you're competent, we promote you ^_^
Veterans
We expect a lot out of our veteran players. Veterans are the backbone of the guild. Veterans are expected to be highly social players, which includes friendly chatting with other members while online, and answering questions. Veteran players are expected to be able to help out any other guild members with any run, of T2 or lower. We expect them to be able to do any T2 boss with a group or solo (as you prefer). We do not require any T3 ability or experience to be a veteran, but it is highly desired. Most of our veterans will be 5* geared or nearly so.
Veterans are expected to submit reports to either an Officer, or Guild Master(Preferably Jace-Jarak) at least once a week. In person, or via 'compose message'. It can be as simple as "Hey, I'm still alive!" if you do not play often or do not see others online often, as we have members around the world.
What we like in reports is simple: If you did some runs with guildmates, give us what you think of them! Who did well, who needs help, if you think anyone deserves a promotion (or petitioned you for a promotion). Mostly, this is how the guildmasters can keep track of who deserves a promotion. You do not need to do this every run or anything like that, just every now and then is helpful. It is required of you to let an officer/master know if someone petitioned you for advancement, and you think they deserve it. If they still need work, then you can simply tell them so.
Officers
Officers are just like Veterans, but they have the ability to invite people into the guild, and have the ability to promote and demote other players. We expect everything of Officers we do of Veterans, only more-so. We expect our officers to be highly social, and eager to help out lower ranked guild members. We do like our Officers to be able to do T3 runs, at least in a group setting. We do not require FSC/Vanaduke ability, since we are a social guild, and not a 'boss-run' guild, however it is always a plus.
Being an officer is a privilege, and a responsibility. All officers are expected to submit a report weekly to a guild master (preferably Jace-Jarak), on what they've been up to, and what their interaction with other guild mates have been. This includes any promotions they've handed out, and people they have invited into the guild, and so on. If nothing of the sort happened, a simple "I'm still alive!" is enough.
Officers ARE NOT ALLOWED to promote anyone they invited into the guild. This is precautionary measure. They may petition other officers or higher to promote those they feel deserve it. If you were invited by a friend who is an officer, you must find another officer to petition for a promotion.In order to be promoted from recruit to member or member to veteran, there are a few simple steps, outlined above but repeated here for convenience.
To be promoted, you need to petition run with a veteran or officer (officers include GMs) and they will do a run with you. If they deem you worthy enough, they may forward the results onto an officer or higher, who will take you onto another run as well. You need at least 2 recommendations to be promoted. After these runs, you will be quizzed by our officer ranks, if we deem you a decent enough player.
If you are not deemed good enough yet, we will guide you so that you will be the next time. Our goal is to make you a better player, and thus, a better guildmember.
During the quizzing by at least 2 or more officers, we will ask understanding of game mechanics, and how to function within a guild group run. The quiz should be easy if you've made it this far. This is also a time for you to ask questions as well, about anything you wish (The guild, ranks, gear, etc). Once again, we want you to be a better player and want to help you!
Upon being accepted as a member one of our officers (most likely guildmaster) will give a congradulatory gift as a reward. This will be a 3* item. Upon talking about goals, strengths, and weaknesses, and deciding what would be best to help the new member out, we will offer several options, and the new member may choose what they want. It can be any of the craftable items by our members, which covers damn near any item in the game.
Also, another gift will be bestowed upon making veteran, if at this point the player does not have all their essentials covered. This will be a case by case basis.Useful Things to remember
Second Half of all tiers are more profitable than others! This means any part after the clockworks crossroads terminal, where basil the merchant is, will earn you more CR (crowns) than the floors before it.
So be a friend and let other guild members join you at the half way point if you have open slots available in your party! Even if they just want to 'go solo' after that. It helps everyone out ^_^
Also, an unofficial merchant friend of our guild is Bystrik, He sells Trinket slots for 85 CE and Weapon slots for 185 CE. Talk to him if you need some.
Do: Share pots Help eachother out Cover eachother Ask before using a heal Share revive turns, so the person with more capability to get up
Don't: Use a heal unless everyone is carrying full pills Use a heal unless you're the last member alive, and under half health. Use a heal unless everyone is almost dead Self revive, unless everyone is dead Self revive without asking party first, and coordinating revives Revive party. EVER. Revive someone without their permission, EVER Go attacking an area when you know you cannot handle it
Waste pots in JK runs (Fire, poison, or curse)There are a few things to know about defeating the Jelly King.
Fire, poison, and especially CURSE are useful pots for his defeat. Generally, part 1 (while he has a crown) try to keep him on fire and poisoned as much as possible. This prevents him from healing while you attack him.
Charge attacks are great on him (DA if you have it, Faust, or, use your calibur charge, it works wonders!)
Phase 2, he loses his crown, gain a shield of invincibility, and do counter clockwise spins. This is a great time to charge your weapon, and try to follow him, he knocks things out of his path, and his wake is clear. When he stops spinning, unleash a charge attack, or hit him with a pot. Now is a time to hit him with Curse, since he will hurt himself a lot when he spins around. Keep up fire and poison though!
If you can't follow him, or others are, while he spins is a great time to kill the minis, since they heal him. Killing minis is like hurting the JK. Having one person work on them will make the fight much faster.
In the event everyone dies, or one or two people die (in a 2-3 person run, instead of 4) it is imperative you self revive quickly, since the JK is a time battle against his healing. Don't heal more than your 5 or 10 though, it shouldn't take more than that in a 4 person run at all.
- Peircing Armor
- Peircing or Elemental Shield
- Shadow Weapons, preferably Swords
Roarmulous Twins are an easy boss to defeat, but coornidation is the key! Someone who has done switches or watched them be done should do them. Time switching so rockets go past and hit the other twin.
Everyone else: Protect the switch user, and hurt the twins when they are down.
It's that simple :P Getting to the boss isn't though. Expect RT levels to be LAGGY. Ask a vet or higher for help if you need it, we love doing RT runs, and are more than happy to get you through them!Disclaimer- The tactics described here do not necessarily represent the best possible solution for every scenario. Different situations will require different strategies. My goal here is to give those strategies a recognizable definition so they can be more readily used during gameplay. I will include a recommended indicator in parenthesis for rapid communication. Buddy System- In my experience many of the tactics I will describe will work best with two player groups. If there are four players, designating which two people will work together should avoid confusion during battle. If there are three players, then one person could be designated for a role instead of a formation. Players should choose their buddy at the beginning of a stage.
Funneling- This will be used to describe situations when players can keep enemies on one side of any openining, if players can defend a corner so it is more difficult for enemies to surround players, or if players are circling enemies.
Defender- This adaptable role will designate players for keeping enemies away from his teammates either with shield bumps or strikes.
Survivor- This planned role will designate players to avoid damage at all costs in order to revive anyone when necessary.
Safeguard- This adaptable role will designate players, generally whoever dies first, to only revive when absolutely necessary despite whenever he is given health. The safeguard's goal is a contingency plan to revive the party when necessary without using energy.
Face to Face (face)- This planned formation is generally for gunners fighting wolvers, particularly in Tier 3. Theoretically, the gunners could face each other and constantly fire until all wolvers are dead since they will be constantly diving behind each gunner.
Juggling (j)- This impromptu formation is generally used when there are just a few small enemies to fight, particularly slow enemies. If timed correctly, enemies can be batted back and forth between two players until the target is killed. Ideally, this should make faster work of enemies than chasing them around or hitting them until they are pinned.
Sword Pinning- This is less of a strategy than a very helpful team habit. If you strike an enemy so it is pushed towards the nearest wall, it will make it easier for your teammates to strike that enemy dealing damage much faster than chasing targets around.
Shot Defense (sdf)- This adaptable formation can be applied to almost any situation, but is best used with funneled enemies. Defenders will be in the front of the formation shield bumping or striking any enemies that get close. Meanwhile shooting players will remain behind the guards. Since there will be less worry about defense, the shooters will be able to fire more consistantly and deal more damage while risking less than swordsmen who pursue a target.
Charge Defense (cdf)- This adaptable formation is very similar to the shot defense formation. The defenders will generally have more work to do since they must wait for an attack to be charged instead of defending constant shots. I have used this most frequently in arenas to keep enemies away from whoever is using the divine avenger's charged attack. Front Man Circling (fcc)- This adaptable strategy is generally for fighting several enemies at once. It is usually best to agree which direction to rotate beforehand. In order to keep everyone close together, and to keep from interfering too much with the funneling, only the person at the front of the rotation should perform any attacks. Others should only use shield bumping or their most mobile attacks until they are at the front.
Simple Gear Guide
Basic gear for great swordsmen:
Wolver line of armor. 2* to 4*, Wolver, Dusker, then Ash tail. All give sword damage low, and are Peircing armors. This line will get you through just about anything in the game.
5* versions include: Skolver: P armor, freeze resist. Main point of it though is sword damage medium. Combine this with the armor and helm together, and you dish out major damage. Great adventuring gear for most locations, great for JK as well.
Vog: E armor, fire resist. Main point of this is sword attack speed increase (S:ASI). This is essential armor for big swords, the DA, Faust, or Troika, also, it's essential for FSC if you plan on doing Fire Storm Citadel runs. Also great for arenas, general adventuring, and RT runs. Not the best in JK at 5* because it goes from P armor to E armor.
Weapons of choice: Divine Avenger: This is a sealed sword, which you get from the Jelly King tokens. This is a half normal/elemental weapon. It's probably one of the best swords in the game, great for everything except beasts really... This is the main sword most swordsmen carry.
Calibur Line: Leviathan for general adventuring. It's a pure normal sword, so it's never the right weapon, but it never lets you down either, and it's charge attack (360 spin) is always good to use. Don't throw enemies into your allies though! The alternate is the Cold Iron Vanquisher, weaker than the Leviathan, but great vs undead (Good for FSC runs actually, less anywhere else)
Useful weapons:
Thorn Blade: simply for beasts, since they suck so much. Alternatively, use a Flourish, but the charge attack is easier on a Thorn Blade to use against beasts.
Brandish line: The brandish line is simlar in behavior to the calibur line, except they have split damage, normal and something else. These are great if you don't like the slower swords like the DA and GF or Troika line. They can cover your elemental or shadow damage, and can do status effects as well depending on type! Their charge is a bit different from caliburs though, since they are forward only, but have a blast that does status effects, very very useful line. They're more powerful than a calibur overall, but need a little more thought (and weapon slots) to use effectively. Great choice for those wanting more without using a calibur or heavy sword.
***NOTE*** Since the update, these swords are much stronger. They are now a very good alternate choice for those who do not like the slower sealed sword series. They now do a blast equal to the * rating of the sword.
Glacius: Freezes targets. Great for solo runs, but does less damage due to the nature of the status.
Combuster: Causes fire, using the charge/shield-bump technique, is very powerful. This does the most damage normally out of the brandish line.
Voltedge: Similar to combuster, but deals shock. Must use Krogmo Koins.
Nightblade: Shadow instead of elemental. No status. Good for JK runs as alternate to Faust/Gran Faust swords.
Pulsar: From the RT tokens, taken down the Polaris line. This is a great gun to use as a sidearm if you have a slot available. It's a great general adventuring gun, highly reccomended!
Autoguns: Generally made into Blitz Needles, this is the gun to use for FSC. It's charge attack is probably the most powerful in the game of any weapon on one target, but harder to use. A good sidarm to use for beasts as well.
Antigua/Argent Peacemaker: A good gun to get for solo runs of Vanaduke, however the polaris is generally a stronger weapon. The strength of this weapon is it's high capacity clip that let's you continue to move while firing (Unlike magnus/callahan, or autogun series).
Useful Shields to Own
Bristling Buckler: One of the favorites. Earned by beating the Snarbolax, and traded in for 10 tokens. This is a Piercing shield, and gives a boost to sword damage. Very good for the Royal Jelly Palace!
Owlite Line: This is by far the best all round elemental shield in the game. Not superbly strong early on, but 4 and 5* is the best shield to have for the Firestorm Citadel that you can craft, and great for arenas too. This is simply a must have all-round shield for all swordsmen.
Crest of Almire: Best shadow shield in game, earned from beating Vanaduke. No other shadow shields are really super-effective, so your best bet is to go with a buckler or owlite line shield from above, until you can earn this shield (which starts as a 4* blackened crest from Brinks for 30 almiran seals).
There are other shields with various properties, but for beginners, the Bristling Buckler line and Owlite line should be all you focus on. Past 3*, talk to members about pros/cons of other gear, since we can give you more detailed information beyond the scope of a basic guide here.Assuming you do not have 3* gear yet, and are running on ME (Mist Energy) here is a few simple ways to make the most of your first week or three.
Learn how to read Gates. You want to find the one that is the Snarbolax, in the Gloaming Wildwoods. This is floors 4-7 on a gate with a Yellow slash symbol on it. They do not vary, or have other options. They will always be the same and go in a line. Following the basic adventuring tips, join party to get a deep a floor as possible. Wherever you end up, run to the end of this boss and defeat it. You will average 3 tokens per victory. Save these up to get 10 frumious fang tokens at least. Use this to get the Bristling Buckler from Brinks in the Bazaar, bottom left. It's a good 2* shield, that gives a sword damage boost, as noted above.
You should be able to do 1-2 runs a day on your ME. Do not do a run if you do not have enough energy to complete the gate. Log off, wait till the next day or whenever you'll have enough energy, roughly 60-70 if you have to start from floor 1. Less if you join a deeper party. Unfortunately, this is all you can do for a few days. Just do your best, and have fun doing this for an hour or two your first few days each day.
As you earn up CR (Crowns) Check the Auction House. You want to search under armor, for Wolver. Sort by buy price. This is important. You want to buy both wolver armor and helm, from 1k CR, to 1.5k CR. If you get lucky and find a wolver recipe at basil on your adventures, you may make it yourself, but it's not strictly necessary. It's cheap enough to buy 2* gear.
Also, you should search for a Calibur Sword, or other 2* sword of your choosing from the swordsman guide. (Calibur recommended for new players to the game). If you want you may also get an Owlite shield. Either way, this will complete your 2* gear lineup.
Once you have 2* gear, you are able to talk to the spiral warden (at the end of any t1 Run) and get t2 access. Congratulations! You're part way there!
Now you should focus on the gate that has the Royal Jelly Palace and the Royal Jelly Boss (Commonly referred to as JK or Jelly King). Do this boss as much as you can. You need JK tokens to get a sealed sword. More importantly though, is the Palace levels bring in a LOT of CR per floor. This will earn up your stockpile of cash nicely. So much in fact, that you can run these floors on CE (Crystal energy) and if you don't revive, earn more than enough to buy back the energy you spend on the market, and have leftover cash! Very good floors to 'farm' cash.
Continue to do this until you have enough cash to buy 3* gear, or find/buy 3* recipes for your armor and weapons. If you went with wolver gear originally, the 3* gear is the Dusker Coat/Cap. You want to buy the recipe between 4-5k in AH, or the armors itself for around 15-16k CR. Do not pay much more than 16k. 17k Should be your maximum spent on any one piece of 3* gear.
This will take a week or three to earn up all 3* gear, but once you do, you are now ready to join the Rogue Knights! From here on out, we will help you with anything you need. Feel free at any point along the way to earning 3* gear to ask for advice from one of our Knights. We will be happy to answer questions, and may or may not be free to help you on a run (don't count on it every time though). You may also mail Jace-Jarak any questions you have, and I will be happy to send you a reply to anything you might need!| Monster Type | Damage Type | Weak To | Neutral To | Strongly Resistant To |
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 Beast Family
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 Gremlin Family
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 Construct Family
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Guild Announcements
Many thx to Jace and Star for promotion, i want to let u know its still gaming as usual but, I would like to develop a few more recruits on the UK timeline as it can be sparse at times, If u see any randoms who may be interested let me know, direct them to our WIKI, if they're still interested and they qualify lets have em b4 another guild does
Regs Bayles
New news: Just to make sure everyone is reading this, if you are, let me know, and I'll see if I can't come up with something special for everyone. Maybe a heavy hatchet or something for everyone who does XD
As to what Bayles said, yes, we're always looking for new recruits! Anyone who seems like a decent player, if they're not in a guild, tell them to read our wiki and that we're a mid sized guild looking to top off our members! If they don't have full 3* gear, we may be able to help them, if they do, then we're all set. (There is a guide above for how to get 3* gear for those who don't have it yet)
Thanks everyone!
