Difference between revisions of "Talk:Monster"

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Excuse me, but I was wanting to add the training cubes from the Advanced Training Hall. Where should I put them?--XTUX345 18:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I'd have to say they would fall under construct, but they don't really follow the same weakness/strength pattern. Maybe they should get their own little section near the bottom of the page? Nothing fancy because they're uncommon enemies... but the completionist in me wants to see them listed here. --BlueBead 16:07, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't Vanaduke fall under that catagory as well? --Zardica 19:25, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Maybe a seperate page could be made for Shufflebots and Vanaduke? Like the ??? Family? :S --Zardica 18:30, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

What family would the swarm creatures fall under, or would they have their own family? --Kazamh 20:17, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

From what I noticed, it seems the Swarm Seed is weak to piercing and resistant to Shadow, so it might be a fiend - I haven't actually confirmed this with damage bonuses or anything though. But considering how unique The Swarm is, it might aswell have it own family section. --Kakelgis 17:03, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

shouldn't we add Impostoclaus and drones?

Drones

Drones are not part of any monster family. Read this on the patch notes. --Dark-Fantasy 10:50, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

We need more Beasts.

Chromalisks and Wolvers just isn't enough for me. It would be cool to have a Beast unique to Spiral Knights.

-TheGME

Gremlin family

I like that the gremlin series is split up into individual pages on each gremlin type. Before all the gremlins were lumped into 1 page.--SpiralMike 01:12, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Creep Cakes

So......where do Creep Cakes go?

Large ones deal piercing damage and small ones deal normal damage, so they are somewhat similar to jellies (they use the same model too) BUT they are neutral to all shadow damage... Confectionery Family? But seriously I have no idea. Story-wise they could fall into Fiends family (cupcakes possessed by dark spirits because Dark Matter were used in the process of baking) Merethif 21:29, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Actually, the large ones still do pure normal even in tier 3, they just show a yellow attack windup, probably because it was copypasted from jellies. Anyway, they don't belong to a monster family along with the swarm, drones and Vanaduke. I may as well fix that incorrect placement while I'm at it although someone will inevitably move Vanaduke to some family he doesn't belong in again. ~Katmint 00:20, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I suppose lost souls would be considered untyped too. I tried to open a discussion on which family they belonged in, but it hasn't gotten any responses yet, so I assumed nobody really cared. Also, what of shufflebots? Jimbo Jambo 03:32, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Shufflebots are construct, due to their construct UV weakness. Whisps, Shankles, and Lost Souls are all Drones because they are level hazards and drop no rewards, but no type is fine too. Someone should test creep cakes with Slime UVs. --HexZyle 06:52, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I've just tested Slime UV - no extra damage. Merethif 08:50, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Monster characters

There are a couple open discussions on whether or not to add monster NPCs, like Konjuring Kat and Hubert the jelly, to the "Notables" section on their respective monster articles. Since there are a few such characters, and since none of the discussions I've seen have gotten much attention, I figured I'd bring them all here. Should these characters be given space on monster articles instead of having their own articles? (which most of them really don't need, since there's so little information on them) If so, should they go under Notables, or perhaps be given their own "Characters" section? Jimbo Jambo 19:19, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Maybe a NPC page could be created that contains these and perhaps all the other NPCs, since none of their pages really have that much info. But that's something that could be determined on a case-by-case basis, character pages with a lot of info could just have a link on the npc page. --HexZyle 14:06, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

I think Monsters like Konjuring Kat and Hubert should be added as notables. There's really no need for a new page for Hubert. NPC page should rather include characters like captain Ozlo, biotech Hahn or Vise. Merethif 20:46, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Ordering Drops from lowest star to highest star

I was thinking of going through some monster pages and order the drop list from lowest star to highest star rating. Is that okay? Marona 18:32, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Fiend Family

Should Maulos not be in the fiend section? He is a type of trojan, like Arkus, yet he is not here??? Dungeddit. --DieGremlins 18:38, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Monster update

Hey Katmint.I know it's a bit longer but I think it's more easely understandable. What you mean by "might work if we made custom SKWindow boxes that attached to the right side of the page". I think personalty it was a bit better. Tell me how you think I should do it. Like this ? http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Gaming_Knights_(Guild)/Members%27_profiles —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bloodboy (talk • contribs) . Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I made a demonstration for you. ~katsy 16:04, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Gremlin Family

Icon Damage Resistances

So the thing is I just have to place it on the right side ? http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Monster —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bloodboy (talk • contribs) . Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I think that the main monster article has been always perfect, i prefer not change it - Sir Onox

I have to agree with Katmint (and Sir-Onox), that the monster template takes up a lot of page space, and doesn't really show information in a useful format. I also agree that, if we really wanted something like this, it would be nice to have it aligned to the right side of the page, so that the text would flow around it. What we currently have is a big box on the left side, some text sprinkled awkwardly around it, and a whole lot of empty space. The formatting crosses the line from merely ugly to actually hindering reading.

I haven't been watching this article closely, but let's not descend into what on Wikipedia is called an edit war, where editors undo each others' edits willy nilly. Instead, let's talk about the issue here, and come to a compromise.

By the way, Bloodboy, please sign your posts on wiki talk pages. It's easy: just type four tildes ~~~~ after a post. Jdavis 18:24, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Vanaduke

Why is Vanaduke classified as a fiend? I would expect him to be in the No Type catch-all category. Jdavis 19:03, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Mainly his piercing weakness for all I know. If he was weak to elemental, (or nothing,) then he would likely be classified as an undead. I personally did not handle his category placement for it. -Midnight-Violet 19:20, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't agree with him being a fiend either, but he's in the fiend section for the same reason Wheel Launchers are in the typeless category: a fiend icon displays next to his name while targeting him. Since actual in-game info now has him pegged as a fiend, I moved him out of typeless. ~katsy 19:59, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Ah, right. I forgot about the in-game info. I never see that (or maybe I have it turned off). Sadly, we should stick with that, as it's official. Jdavis 20:33, 16 August 2013 (UTC)