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--[[User:DieGremlins|DieGremlins]] 15:20, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 
--[[User:DieGremlins|DieGremlins]] 15:20, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
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:These are some great ideas! But ''wiki discussion pages'' aren't really the place for this sort of thing. Try making a post in the [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/forum/7 Suggestions Forum] instead! (Late reply!) -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 16:04, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
  
  
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:Been going through and fixing some internal links and redirects. These were done with haste as part of the large project, so the best options weren't used - "doodad" is an example. Instead of using unofficial (slang) terms as anchor links, I'm going through and using more direct terminology. This makes long-term terminology changes easier as the player community evolves. It makes the coding look clunky, but on the page itself is very smooth. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:29, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 
:Been going through and fixing some internal links and redirects. These were done with haste as part of the large project, so the best options weren't used - "doodad" is an example. Instead of using unofficial (slang) terms as anchor links, I'm going through and using more direct terminology. This makes long-term terminology changes easier as the player community evolves. It makes the coding look clunky, but on the page itself is very smooth. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:29, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
  
==Old List==
 
It's recorded in the page history, but here it is for quick visual reference:
 
 
IMO, it's harder to manage, and is too different from the rest of the tables on the wiki.
 
 
{{FurniturelistMain/Start}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Birdsong Emporium Furniture#Crash Pod|Crash Pod]]
 
|Furniture-Crash Pod icon|
 
|Doodad
 
|Basic
 
|Crash Pod|
 
|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Birdsong Emporium Furniture#Field Sensor|Field Sensor]]
 
|Furniture-Field Sensor icon|
 
|Doodad
 
|Basic
 
|Field Sensor|
 
|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain4/Row
 
|[[Birdsong Emporium Furniture#Light Beacon|Light Beacon]]
 
|Furniture-Blue Light Beacon icon|
 
|Light
 
|Basic
 
|Blue Light Beacon|
 
|Green Light Beacon|
 
|Red Light Beacon|
 
|Yellow Light Beacon|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain4/Row
 
|[[Birdsong Emporium Furniture#Potted Plant|Potted Plant]]
 
|Furniture-Sundries icon|
 
|Plant
 
|Basic
 
|Blue Potted Plant|
 
|Green Potted Plant|
 
|Red Potted Plant|
 
|Yellow Potted Plant|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain3/Row
 
|[[Birdsong Emporium Furniture#Bed|Bed]] (Spiral, Copper)
 
|Furniture-Spiral Blue Bed icon|
 
|Bed
 
|Basic
 
|Spiral Blue Bed|
 
|Spiral Red Bed|
 
|Copper Yellow Bed|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain3/Row
 
|[[Birdsong Emporium Furniture#Compact Chair|Compact Chair]] (Spiral, Copper)
 
|Furniture-Spiral Blue Compact Chair icon|
 
|Seat
 
|Basic
 
|Spiral Blue Compact Chair|
 
|Spiral Red Compact Chair|
 
|Copper Yellow Compact Chair|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain4/Row
 
|[[Birdsong Emporium Furniture#Chest of Drawers|Chest of Drawers]] (Spiral, Copper)
 
|Furniture-Spiral Blue Chest of Drawers icon|
 
|Doodad
 
|Basic
 
|Spiral Blue Chest of Drawers|
 
|Spiral Red Chest of Drawers|
 
|Spiral White Chest of Drawers|
 
|Copper Yellow Chest of Drawers|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain4/Row
 
|[[Birdsong Emporium Furniture#Footlocker|Footlocker]] (Spiral, Copper)
 
|Furniture-Spiral Blue Footlocker icon|
 
|Doodad
 
|Basic
 
|Spiral Blue Footlocker|
 
|Spiral Red Footlocker|
 
|Spiral White Footlocker|
 
|Copper Yellow Footlocker|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain4/Row
 
|[[Birdsong Emporium Furniture#Modular Table|Modular Table]] (Spiral, Copper)
 
|Furniture-Spiral Blue Modular Table icon|
 
|Table
 
|Basic
 
|Spiral Blue Modular Table|
 
|Spiral Red Modular Table|
 
|Spiral White Modular Table|
 
|Copper Yellow Modular Table|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Sundries]]
 
|Furniture-Sundries icon|
 
|Pile
 
|Basic
 
|Sundries|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain4/Row
 
|[[Birdsong Emporium Furniture#Supply Shelf|Supply Shelf]] (Spiral, Copper)
 
|Furniture-Spiral Blue Supply Shelf icon|
 
|Shelf
 
|Basic
 
|Spiral Blue Supply Shelf|
 
|Spiral Red Supply Shelf|
 
|Spiral White Supply Shelf|
 
|Copper Yellow Supply Shelf|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Birdsong Emporium Furniture#Toughbox|Toughbox]]
 
|Furniture-Toughbox icon|
 
|Doodad
 
|Basic
 
|Toughbox|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain4/Row
 
|[[Birdsong Emporium Furniture#Wardrobe|Wardrobe]] (Spiral, Copper)
 
|Furniture-Spiral Blue Wardrobe icon|
 
|Shelf
 
|Basic
 
|Spiral Blue Wardrobe|
 
|Spiral Red Wardrobe|
 
|Spiral White Wardrobe|
 
|Copper Yellow Wardrobe|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Weapon Crate]]
 
|Furniture-Weapon Crate icon|
 
|Doodad
 
|Basic
 
|Weapon Crate|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Birdsong Emporium Furniture#Energy Well|Energy Well]]
 
|Furniture-Energy Well icon|
 
|Special
 
|Basic
 
|Energy Well|
 
}}
 
{{Hidden header|Homecoming}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain4/Row
 
|[[Homecoming Furniture#Battle Stand|Battle Stand]]
 
|Furniture-Vanguard's Battle Stand icon|
 
|Stand
 
|Homecoming (2012)
 
|Recruit's Battle Stand|
 
|Knight's Battle Stand|
 
|Champion's Battle Stand|
 
|Vanguard's Battle Stand|
 
}}
 
{{Hidden header|Snipes}}
 
{{FurniturelistMainPlaced4/Row
 
|[[Snipe (Furniture)#Lazy Snipe|Snipe (Lazy)]]
 
|Furniture-White Lazy Snipe icon|
 
|Creature
 
|Snipe
 
|Blue Lazy Snipe|
 
|Green Lazy Snipe|
 
|Red Lazy Snipe|
 
|White Lazy Snipe|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMainPlaced4/Row
 
|[[Snipe (Furniture)#Flying Snipe|Snipe (Flying)]]
 
|Furniture-White Flying Snipe icon|
 
|Creature
 
|Snipe
 
|Blue Flying Snipe|
 
|Green Flying Snipe|
 
|Red Flying Snipe|
 
|White Flying Snipe|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMainPlaced5/Row
 
|[[Snipe (Furniture)#Wandering Snipe|Snipe (Wandering)]]
 
|Furniture-White Wandering Snipe icon|
 
|Creature
 
|Snipe
 
|Blue Wandering Snipe|
 
|Green Wandering Snipe|
 
|Purple Wandering Snipe|
 
|Red Wandering Snipe|
 
|White Wandering Snipe|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMainPlaced3/Row
 
|[[Snipe (Furniture)#Lazy Gobblesnipe|Gobblesnipe (Lazy)]]
 
|Furniture-Black Plump Gobblesnipe icon|
 
|Creature
 
|Snipe
 
|Black Lazy Gobblesnipe|
 
|Brown Lazy Gobblesnipe|
 
|Gold Lazy Gobblesnipe|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMainPlaced3/Row
 
|[[Snipe (Furniture)#Plump Gobblesnipe|Gobblesnipe (Plump)]]
 
|Furniture-Black Plump Gobblesnipe icon|
 
|Creature
 
|Snipe
 
|Black Plump Gobblesnipe|
 
|Brown Plump Gobblesnipe|
 
|Gold Plump Gobblesnipe|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMainPlaced3/Row
 
|[[Snipe (Furniture)#Wandering Gobblesnipe|Gobblesnipe (Wandering)]]
 
|Furniture-Black Plump Gobblesnipe icon|
 
|Creature
 
|Snipe
 
|Black Wandering Gobblesnipe|
 
|Brown Wandering Gobblesnipe|
 
|Gold Wandering Gobblesnipe|
 
}}
 
{{Hidden header|Boss Trophies}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain3/Row
 
|[[Armero Alchemy Machine#Boss Trophies|Boss Trophy (Snarbolax)]]
 
|Furniture-Replica Shadowy Snarbolax icon|
 
|Trophy (Boss)
 
|Armero (Hunter's Lodge)
 
|Frumious Fang (Furniture)|
 
|Replica Natural Snarbolax|
 
|Replica Shadowy Snarbolax|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain3/Row
 
|[[Armero Alchemy Machine#Boss Trophies|Boss Trophy (Royal Jelly)]]
 
|Furniture-Replica Royal Jelly icon|
 
|Trophy (Boss)
 
|Armero (Hunter's Lodge)
 
|Jelly Gem (Furniture)|
 
|Royal Jelly Crown (Furniture)|
 
|Replica Royal Jelly|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain3/Row
 
|[[Armero Alchemy Machine#Boss Trophies|Boss Trophy (Roarmulus Twins)]]
 
|Furniture-Large Replica Roarmulus Twin icon|
 
|Trophy (Boss)
 
|Armero (Hunter's Lodge)
 
|Roarmulus Blueprints|
 
|Small Replica Roarmulus Twin|
 
|Large Replica Roarmulus Twin|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain3/Row
 
|[[Armero Alchemy Machine#Boss Trophies|Boss Trophy (Lord Vanaduke)]]
 
|Furniture-Lord Vanaduke's Finery icon|
 
|Trophy (Boss)
 
|Armero (Hunter's Lodge)
 
|Almirian Seal (Furniture)|
 
|Lord Vanaduke's Mask|
 
|Lord Vanaduke's Finery|
 
}}
 
{{Hidden header|Winterfest}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain3/Row
 
|[[Winterfest Furniture#Candles|Candles]]
 
|Furniture-White Candles icon|
 
|Light
 
|Winterfest
 
|Green Candles|
 
|Red Candles|
 
|White Candles|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain3/Row
 
|[[Winterfest Furniture#Holiday Presents|Holiday Presents]]
 
|Furniture-White Holiday Presents icon|
 
|Pile
 
|Winterfest
 
|Green Holiday Presents|
 
|Red Holiday Presents|
 
|White Holiday Presents|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Winterfest Furniture#Snow Block|Snow Block]]
 
|Furniture-Snow Block icon|
 
|Doodad
 
|Winterfest
 
|Snow Block|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain3/Row
 
|[[Winterfest Furniture#Winterfest Tree|Winterfest Tree]]
 
|Furniture-White Winterfest Tree icon|
 
|Plant
 
|Winterfest
 
|Green Winterfest Tree|
 
|Red Winterfest Tree|
 
|White Winterfest Tree|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Winterfest Furniture#Winterfest Table|Winterfest Table]]
 
|Furniture-Winterfest Table icon|
 
|Table (Decorated)
 
|Winterfest
 
|Winterfest Table|
 
}}
 
{{Hidden header|Moorcroft}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Ancient Bookcase|Ancient Bookcase]]
 
|Furniture-Ancient Bookcase icon|
 
|Shelf
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Ancient Bookcase|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain2/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Antique Bench|Antique Bench]]
 
|Furniture-Green Antique Bench icon|
 
|Seat
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Green Antique Bench|
 
|Purple Antique Bench|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain2/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Antique Chair|Antique Chair]]
 
|Furniture-Green Antique Chair icon|
 
|Seat
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Green Antique Chair|
 
|Purple Antique Chair|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Antique Luggage|Antique Luggage]]
 
|Furniture-Antique Luggage icon|
 
|Pile
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Antique Luggage|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Antique Suitcases|Antique Suitcases]]
 
|Furniture-Antique Suitcases icon|
 
|Pile
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Antique Suitcases|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Antique Table|Antique Table]]
 
|Furniture-Antique Table icon|
 
|Table
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Antique Table|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Bone Stack|Bone Stack]]
 
|Furniture-Bone Stack icon|
 
|Pile
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Bone Stack|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistPlaced1/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Curious Mewkat|Curious Mewkat]]
 
|Furniture-Curious Mewkat icon|
 
|Creature
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Curious Mewkat|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain4/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Short Gaslamp|Gaslamp (Short)]]
 
|Furniture-Blue Short Gaslamp icon|
 
|Light
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Blue Short Gaslamp|
 
|Green Short Gaslamp|
 
|Orange Short Gaslamp|
 
|Purple Short Gaslamp|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain4/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Tall Gaslamp|Gaslamp (Tall)]]
 
|Furniture-Blue Tall Gaslamp icon|
 
|Light
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Blue Tall Gaslamp|
 
|Green Tall Gaslamp|
 
|Orange Tall Gaslamp|
 
|Purple Tall Gaslamp|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain1/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Skull Pile|Skull Pile]]
 
|Furniture-Skull Pile icon|
 
|Pile
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Skull Pile|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain2/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Tome Stack|Tome Stack]]
 
|Furniture-Moldy Tome Stack icon|
 
|Pile
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Moldy Tome Stack|
 
|Musty Tome Stack|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain3/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Tome Stand|Tome Stand]]
 
|Furniture-Ancient Tome Stand icon|
 
|Stand
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Ancient Tome Stand|
 
|Cursed Tome Stand|
 
|Mystical Tome Stand|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistPlaced1/Row
 
|[[Moorcroft Furniture#Zombie Bellhop|Zombie Bellhop]]
 
|Furniture-Zombie Bellhop icon|
 
|Creature
 
|Moorcroft
 
|Zombie Bellhop|
 
}}
 
{{Hidden header|Apocrean}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain4/Row
 
|[[Apocrean Furniture#Obsidian Obelisk|Obsidian Obelisk]]
 
|Furniture-Broken Floating Obsidian Obelisk icon|
 
|Doodad
 
|Apocrean
 
|Broken Floating Obsidian Obelisk|
 
|Broken Obsidian Obelisk|
 
|Floating Obsidian Obelisk|
 
|Obsidian Obelisk|
 
}}
 
{{Hidden header|Almire}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain2/Row
 
|[[Almire Furniture#Bench|Bench (Almire)]]
 
|Furniture-Restored Bench icon|
 
|Seat
 
|Almire
 
|Charred Bench|
 
|Restored Bench|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain2/Row
 
|[[Almire Furniture#Chair|Chair (Almire)]]
 
|Furniture-Restored Chair icon|
 
|Seat
 
|Almire
 
|Charred Chair|
 
|Restored Chair|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMainAlmireSprites/Row
 
|[[Almire Furniture#Nature Sprite|Nature Sprite]]
 
|Furniture-Nature Sprite icon|
 
|Creature
 
|Almire
 
|Nature Sprite|
 
|Cursed Nature Sprite|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain2/Row
 
|[[Almire Furniture#Rug|Rug (Almire)]]
 
|Furniture-Restored Rug icon|
 
|Rug
 
|Almire
 
|Charred Rug|
 
|Restored Rug|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain2/Row
 
|[[Almire Furniture#Tapestry|Tapestry (Almire)]]
 
|Furniture-Restored Tapestry icon|
 
|Doodad
 
|Almire
 
|Charred Tapestry|
 
|Restored Tapestry|
 
}}
 
{{FurniturelistMain2/Row
 
|[[Almire Furniture#Table|Table (Almire)]]
 
|Furniture-Restored Table icon|
 
|Table
 
|Almire
 
|Charred Table|
 
|Restored Table|
 
}}
 
{{Table/End}}
 
  
 
==Terminology==
 
==Terminology==
Some things, like "doodad" are used unofficially to help understand what an item is. They are not classified as such in-game. Other terms are changed, like "pile" instead of "clutter" - clutter is seen in the game files.  
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Some things, like "doodad" are used unofficially to help understand what an item is. A lot of other games use doodad, I'm particularly fond of the Starcraft Gen 1/Broodwar Map Editor's usage of the term "doodad." These furniture items are not classified as such in-game. Other terms are changed, like "pile" instead of "clutter" - clutter is seen in the game files.  
  
 
Also, anyone think that the page for "Almire Furniture" should be "Almirian Furniture"? Apocrea vs. Apocrean...something to bother your mind about.  
 
Also, anyone think that the page for "Almire Furniture" should be "Almirian Furniture"? Apocrea vs. Apocrean...something to bother your mind about.  
  
 
-[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 12:53, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 
-[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 12:53, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Revision as of 16:04, 12 August 2014

Should we separate furniture by active?

Should we separate active furniture(beds, chairs, etc.) into their own tables? Either that or maybe specifying what it does when you use action in front of it. --AutoFire 20:33, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Price sorting seems to be broken?

It goes through four different sortings, two of which are correct. --NekoSniper 13:30, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

More furniture?

It would be cool if there was these furniture pieces:


Crown Crate: 'It's filled with a large cache of crowns! Good way to store your treasury in' An open crate filled with crowns. It also has a function - it opens the treasury, and allows you to deposit up to 1000 crowns in, even if you aren't in the guild! Should cost 22,640 crowns and be available when a 2F wing is bought.


NPC Knight: 'Recruit a Knight who stays in your Guild Hall and does precisely what you want!' A customisable NPC Knight who can do several things - walk around set parts of the Guild Hall, go on one of your chairs or beds and more! Can also be customised with a set amount of costumes, depending on the wing you are on. 1F - +0 and 1 star gear 2F - +2 and 3 star gear 3F - +4 and 5 star gear NPC Knights should cost 36,120 crowns and be available when any wing on 1F is purchased.


Display Case: 'A small glass case that can have a single material inside.' Can be placed on modular tables as well as the ground, and you can put a single material inside. The material inside will be shown in a 3D way. Should cost 9,980 crowns and be always available.


Derelict Mecha Knight: 'A Mecha Knight that appears to have been shut down. Some derelict Mecha Knights like this one cannot be reactivated, but make good furnishings!' A model of a derelict Mecha Knight. It has no function. It should cost 18,640 crowns and require any 2F wing.


Sword in the Stone: 'Bringing the legends of King Arthur to your guild hall, anyone who manages to get the sword out of the stone will gain heavy riches!' A Leviathan Blade stuck into a rock. The function of it is that anyone in the guild can try to take the sword out of the stone. How this works is on a randomizer - and it's a one in a hundred chance. A guild member who manages to get it out will add a Leviathan Blade to every member's inventory, and add 250,000 crowns to the Treasury. The furniture piece will also be removed. Costs 268,400 Crowns and both 4F wings.

--DieGremlins 15:20, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

These are some great ideas! But wiki discussion pages aren't really the place for this sort of thing. Try making a post in the Suggestions Forum instead! (Late reply!) -Novaster 16:04, 12 August 2014 (UTC)


Overhaul

A bunch of new furniture items came out, and the list was very out of date. I've been editing it for a while before this post (forgot to put a note in "page discussion" haha). I've designed a series of templates and linking behaviors that should get people where they need to go. If someone can make an all-encompassing template that allows what the current pile of templates does, go for it. The table is organized in the page via Date of Release (roughly), and can be sorted by name/group/type for people to find what they want easily. The list is one giant list, so if people can be like "I wanna know all the kinds of plants there are!" they can see ALL the different kinds of plants in all the different groups (winterfest trees, birdsong potted plants, and so on) via column sorting - not too much hassle. -Novaster 22:26, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

One thing to note, "Snipes" don't follow the page+linking pattern of other furniture types, in that they are from so many different groups, depending on their colors. And not all colors are from specific groups either - take the Green kind for example. So they just have their own page - "Snipes" instead of a group page, like "Birdsong Emporium." Let's just hope other furniture types don't start acting like/are released like this, or we'll have to get gritty with the organization again.
Been going through and fixing some internal links and redirects. These were done with haste as part of the large project, so the best options weren't used - "doodad" is an example. Instead of using unofficial (slang) terms as anchor links, I'm going through and using more direct terminology. This makes long-term terminology changes easier as the player community evolves. It makes the coding look clunky, but on the page itself is very smooth. -Novaster 22:29, 31 July 2014 (UTC)


Terminology

Some things, like "doodad" are used unofficially to help understand what an item is. A lot of other games use doodad, I'm particularly fond of the Starcraft Gen 1/Broodwar Map Editor's usage of the term "doodad." These furniture items are not classified as such in-game. Other terms are changed, like "pile" instead of "clutter" - clutter is seen in the game files.

Also, anyone think that the page for "Almire Furniture" should be "Almirian Furniture"? Apocrea vs. Apocrean...something to bother your mind about.

-Novaster 12:53, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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