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[http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:Unique_variant.png This Image] bothers me on so many levels. Bad tag, and it's not a true visual of the situation - that horizontal zigzag line doesn't appear in-game...I get what this image is meant to do but I don't think it's appropriate. The image is technically of an item, yes, in that it is of an item's...tooltip...thing...but compared to most other tag specifics, it just doesn't make sense. Could we delete this image...if not, could we change the tag to <nowiki>{{wiki image}}</nowiki>? I would just change the file that shows up on the [[Unique Variant]] page and add a delete tag myself, but this weird image is protected, so I need to check here first. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 04:47, 5 January 2015 (UTC) | [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:Unique_variant.png This Image] bothers me on so many levels. Bad tag, and it's not a true visual of the situation - that horizontal zigzag line doesn't appear in-game...I get what this image is meant to do but I don't think it's appropriate. The image is technically of an item, yes, in that it is of an item's...tooltip...thing...but compared to most other tag specifics, it just doesn't make sense. Could we delete this image...if not, could we change the tag to <nowiki>{{wiki image}}</nowiki>? I would just change the file that shows up on the [[Unique Variant]] page and add a delete tag myself, but this weird image is protected, so I need to check here first. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 04:47, 5 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
:There are lots of images in [[:Category:Item images]] that don't have tags that make sense. I have <nowiki>{{text image}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{interface image}}</nowiki> tags that I think would be appropriate for most of these, but I can't edit some of them. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 05:06, 5 January 2015 (UTC) | :There are lots of images in [[:Category:Item images]] that don't have tags that make sense. I have <nowiki>{{text image}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{interface image}}</nowiki> tags that I think would be appropriate for most of these, but I can't edit some of them. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 05:06, 5 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
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A Big Project
Hello, as you can see from a ton of sandbox edits lately, we're trying to build a thing! This thing could be pretty major, so I think it would be smart to ask for staff opinion(s).
It's a list that can sort things via name, damage or defense type, resistances, abilities, penalties, and star, and so on, depending on the type of item.
I want to make this because a lot of players seem to have trouble finding certain item types and comparing items. After several months of this on the bottom of my "things I could try to do for the wiki in my spare time of which I have too much" I decided to get goin on it.
Naturally, I went to the forums to get more opinions.
So we've a lot of us have been putting lots of thought into this, and people seem to like the idea in general, but to sum up the forum discussion, we're not having an efficient time deciding on format.
Some opinion(s) on something this large from staff would be great, and, smart to get, yeah? -Novaster 01:10, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, also, can we get confirmation about the order of release for items? I've checked release/all but it doesn't mention everything :)/ -Novaster 21:19, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- The wiki is a community project and in general we rely on the consensus of the player community for such decisions, unless it's something that goes against the style guide/policy. As for release, I'm afraid I don't have a way to find that information easily and sending a query to the developers is out of the question. However, I can take a look and see what I can find. Which items are the ones that need fact-checking? --Clotho 18:23, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Not sure yet, we've not tried to make all tables (since we're changing so much, it would be silly to do that work and have to change that too) - when we do, I'll post here. -Novaster 19:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Update: the armor lists are filled in, namewise - in what we believe is the DoR order. Verification would be nice once we get them all onto the same page :D -Novaster 22:19, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Not sure yet, we've not tried to make all tables (since we're changing so much, it would be silly to do that work and have to change that too) - when we do, I'll post here. -Novaster 19:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- The wiki is a community project and in general we rely on the consensus of the player community for such decisions, unless it's something that goes against the style guide/policy. As for release, I'm afraid I don't have a way to find that information easily and sending a query to the developers is out of the question. However, I can take a look and see what I can find. Which items are the ones that need fact-checking? --Clotho 18:23, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Images, Animation, and Mouse
So I had a thought - would it be at all possible to have any APNGs we upload to the wiki be frozen on the first frame - only animating if a user hovers their mouse over the image? I've seen this before around the intranetz but IDK how we would (or if we could) go about it on the wiki. Just a thought! Would be nice for new players wanting to get a good look at an item, but otherwise be un-distracted by movement on the page while they look at other things. -Novaster 07:58, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
- This looks like a topic for discussion for the wiki editors forums. --Clotho 18:28, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Tabber
Oh look, Nova is doing weird things on the wiki again!
So I've been trying to make a nice...thing...that mimics a few in-game interfaces. Basically it's a tab box that:
- doesn't link to other pages unless specified, a self-contained thing
- provides a great way to organize things
- and blahblah
I poked around on our wiki and couldn't find anything anywhere that behaves like this.
I poked around on MediaWiki, and they have a "tabber" extension. Do we have this? I tried making a template but it didn't quite work, wondering if I'm just not plugging something in correctly. If we don't have this extension, would it be possible to get it? Since we're powered by MediaWiki here and all that (I have...no idea...how these things work :D...magic?)
So I spent some time messing around last night trying to incorporate show/hide, and the sheer pathetic level of my efforts made me laugh.
relevant derpy template 1 relevant derpy template 2
I think it's clear what I'm trying to do? If not, I'll try to elaborate more. I'm talking with some friends about how to do this, and none of 'em seem to have a clue how to do it.
EDIT: File:Templaterequest tabber.png
Thanks for reading! -Novaster 14:51, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
- OH an optional scrollbar parameter would be ideal, if possible. -Novaster 16:37, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
- Talked with some friends, and they said something about old MediaWiki not having the capacity for new MediaWiki things. That makes me sad D:. Messed around with it some more, and, well, the way that it's NOT working is making me laugh at least. -Novaster 00:26, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- We don't ave those extensions and it's likely they won't be implemented any time soon. Sorry! --Clotho 17:14, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- Talked with some friends, and they said something about old MediaWiki not having the capacity for new MediaWiki things. That makes me sad D:. Messed around with it some more, and, well, the way that it's NOT working is making me laugh at least. -Novaster 00:26, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- TL;DR: Sorry about all the junk templates and trashed pages I generate in this process. I am inspired.
- -Novaster 02:43, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
Icon for Crafting
The main wiki page has a silly icon for crafting...not been updated in a while.
Can we replace it with something more relevant? Like 
or a greyed out version of 
(since not all rarities are used crafting)?
The pickup vial is a little odd this late in the game. I think I can replace the actual image file myself, but the main page it's on doesn't allow editing, so I want to ask. -Novaster 22:17, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Changed. It may take a while for the cached image to update. --Clotho 17:24, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
This Image seems a bit wonky. Idk if it's important but I just found it going through categories and I can't tag it...which makes me think it's important :O (why is it in icky jpg eeeeew)-Novaster 05:11, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- also this one. -Novaster 05:13, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Oops
Ack, when going through cleaning up after myself, I accidentally put the delete tag on this, and I was using that in a comparative section on my user page. Could you restore it? If not, no big deal, I'll try and find the file and reupload it. Thanks! -Novaster 15:04, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- Restored! --Clotho 18:28, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Outdated External Link
User:MtaxXx mentioned an outdated link on the discussion page of Account Security. -Novaster 15:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Template Category Project
I'm attempting to put various templates into easy to navigate/understand categories, so users don't generate new templates when there might already be one they're looking for (something I did frequently when I was new here and would have appreciated as a nubbie editor). Understandably, I can't edit the Template:Showhide code - could you add [[Category:Showhide Templates]] to it? If I find more...specialized templates around the wiki that I can't edit so they fall into categories, I'll return here again. Thanks, -Novaster 15:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- It would be cool to do the [[Category:Showhide Templates|*]] thingie since it's the daddy template of these templates. -Novaster 15:35, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
This...image...
This Image bothers me on so many levels. Bad tag, and it's not a true visual of the situation - that horizontal zigzag line doesn't appear in-game...I get what this image is meant to do but I don't think it's appropriate. The image is technically of an item, yes, in that it is of an item's...tooltip...thing...but compared to most other tag specifics, it just doesn't make sense. Could we delete this image...if not, could we change the tag to {{wiki image}}? I would just change the file that shows up on the Unique Variant page and add a delete tag myself, but this weird image is protected, so I need to check here first. -Novaster 04:47, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- There are lots of images in Category:Item images that don't have tags that make sense. I have {{text image}} and {{interface image}} tags that I think would be appropriate for most of these, but I can't edit some of them. -Novaster 05:06, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- Do you have a list? --Clotho 17:58, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
