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This is looking absolutely fantastic. A few issues I'd like to bring up, though.

  • This whole project is based around the mapping of the modules that occur in randomly generated levels, correct? If so, then pregenerated levels and segments from these should not appear here. I think there could be some issues with how you've mentioned missions as missions are either pregenerated, or are just levels that already exist in the Arcade, but I'll have to figure out what this applies to when the cases crop up.
    • Thus, documenting every non-sublevel pregenerated area like mission lobbies, is outside the scope of the original idea (random level segments) and since these areas only occur in one location, they should simply just be added to their respective pages (I'm specifically talking about the Lobby map you've made on User:Novaster/Sandbox. It doesn't need to be placed in a special template, just chuck the map on the March of the Tortodrones page. Unless, of course, you want a page with every single piece of existing level in the game on a single page, but I think you already know that that'll be massive and unwieldy.
  • To my understanding, module selection at intersections is based upon what direction the connections are facing. For example, the Security Door Module Only ever exists on an intersection where paths are coming in from the west and from the north. (The dead-end east path is generated as part of this module) You'll never find it in any other orientation.

--HexZyle 12:43, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Yay!
1) nonrandom areas can be plugged into a template to name them easily, they don't have to be in a list (that would be huge and unwieldly yes!) - this is just so editors can make "to do lists", upload the files, and then get rid of the "to do" list and have the images show up on the relevant missions pages in galleries. This should really help with the Mission Page revamp we've been wanting to do. In the future, it should help new editors know how to name their files, instead of just randomly.
Oh I should fix the /Start part of the template to be just type. -Novaster 12:52, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
2) Security Door Module would be an "L" type. Should we add in a rotation section in the notes? It might help with "variant" issues. -Novaster 12:51, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
I understand that it's an L-shape. I just thought there could be some distinction between L-shapes with different sides of connection. (Or would that sort of documentation be too excessive?) Now that I think about it though, I'm not even sure if there ARE rotatable modules. It's certainly something I would like to look into.
Also, I noted that you stated that the second module on your sandbox page appears in Blighted Compound. I'd like to let you know that the developers don't have so many modules that they're not willing to rehash a module for different monster or status theme, so if you see a module in one themed Compound, you can safely assume that it appears in ALL themes of Compounds. I'm not sure about depths of appearance though, you might be onto something there, but I think it should be at most a tier mention only. We've got enough on our hands (and on the hands of anyone else who decides to join in) documenting all the modules, period, let alone every single depth that they can occur on. --HexZyle 13:02, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Would saying (Any?) be better? -Novaster 13:06, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Just say "Compounds" or "Clockwork Tunnels" or "Candlestick Keep" or "Lichenous Lair" or "Beast Den". I think that "Any" is implied already when these are stated by themselves. It should be thus unless proven otherwise (which will be impossible because you can't prove a level segment doesn't exist on certain themes: You can prove that it does exist with a single piece of data, or you can prove that it's highly unlikely with a lot of data, but you can't state it doesn't exist as the second that someone finds it there, that statement is false)

I think we are not talking about the same thing. I would only use (Any?) for depth, never the level. But I was wondering if we could also use it for "any" "infernal passage" (like any stratum/sub of infernal) etc. -Novaster 13:12, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

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