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Forgive me if I'm missing something, but this gun is wholly useless, am i right?  a tiny bit more damage than a proto gun with a far smaller ROF means miniscule DPS.--[[User:Skaramuche|Skaramuche]] 06:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 
Forgive me if I'm missing something, but this gun is wholly useless, am i right?  a tiny bit more damage than a proto gun with a far smaller ROF means miniscule DPS.--[[User:Skaramuche|Skaramuche]] 06:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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Agreed, so far as I can tell. While it would still be underpowered, however, its main problem is that it doesn't allow you to move while reloading, last I checked, making kiting all but impossible. There should be some place to mention this on the page.
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*The big difference is that this gun will frequently have a knockdown effect in the early parts of the game. Also, the shot travels much faster than the Proto Gun, making it easier to hit monsters that dodge a lot. --[[User:D0gr0ck|D0gr0ck]] 17:30, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
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== Raw Damage Values ==
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{| border="1" style="text-align:center"
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|- style="background-color:#ADFFAD"
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! colspan="1"|Tier 1 !! rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
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! D01 !! D02 !! D03 !! rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
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! D05 !! D06 !! D07 !! rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
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|-
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| align="left" | Normal Attack
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| 12 || 13 || 14
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| 12 || 12 || 12
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|-
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| align="left" | Charge Attack
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| 23 || 26 || 25
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| 20 || 19 || 18
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|}
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{| border="1" style="text-align:center"
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|- style="background-color:#ADFFAD"
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! colspan="1"|Tier 2 !! rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
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! D09 !! D10 !! D11 !! D12 !! rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
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! D14 !! D15 !! D16 !! D17 !!  rowspan="5" style="background-color:#000000"|
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|-
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| align="left" | Normal Attack
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| 11 || 11 || 10 || 10
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| 10 || 10 || 9 || 9
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|-
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| align="left" | Charge Attack
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| 17 || 16 || 16 || 15
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| 15 || 14 || 14 || 14
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|}
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== Old "Vs Mender" Values ==
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Below table represents the "Vs Menders" damage values before "[http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/20474 Bugfix Patch - August 11, 2011]" <br />
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Data no longer relevant but I'm leaving them here as a record in case we need to restore them to the main page later.
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{| border="1"
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!colspan="7"|Versus Gremlin Menders (Data discarded on main page)
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|-
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|||| Depth 1 || Depth 2 || Depth 3 || Depth 4 || Depth 5 || Depth 6
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|-
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|Basic Attack || 15 || ? || 16 || ? || 13 || 13
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|-
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|Charge Attack || 26 || ? || 30 || ? || 23 || 21
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|}
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--[[User:SK Tactics|SK Tactics]] 04:06, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 04:06, 17 September 2011

Forgive me if I'm missing something, but this gun is wholly useless, am i right? a tiny bit more damage than a proto gun with a far smaller ROF means miniscule DPS.--Skaramuche 06:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, so far as I can tell. While it would still be underpowered, however, its main problem is that it doesn't allow you to move while reloading, last I checked, making kiting all but impossible. There should be some place to mention this on the page.

  • The big difference is that this gun will frequently have a knockdown effect in the early parts of the game. Also, the shot travels much faster than the Proto Gun, making it easier to hit monsters that dodge a lot. --D0gr0ck 17:30, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Raw Damage Values

Tier 1 D01 D02 D03 D05 D06 D07
Normal Attack 12 13 14 12 12 12
Charge Attack 23 26 25 20 19 18
Tier 2 D09 D10 D11 D12 D14 D15 D16 D17
Normal Attack 11 11 10 10 10 10 9 9
Charge Attack 17 16 16 15 15 14 14 14


Old "Vs Mender" Values

Below table represents the "Vs Menders" damage values before "Bugfix Patch - August 11, 2011"
Data no longer relevant but I'm leaving them here as a record in case we need to restore them to the main page later.

Versus Gremlin Menders (Data discarded on main page)
Depth 1 Depth 2 Depth 3 Depth 4 Depth 5 Depth 6
Basic Attack 15  ? 16  ? 13 13
Charge Attack 26  ? 30  ? 23 21

--SK Tactics 04:06, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

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