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Gun comparison page for personal use, to decide which guns I want to craft. Relying on wiki damage tables to compare.
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Lumber, D19 (Beyond the axes of evil), Elite (= elemental, normal and stun damage)
  
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Autoguns:
 
  
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[[File:Equipment-Blitz_Needle_icon.png]] [[File:Equipment-Grim_Repeater_icon.png]] [[File:Equipment-Volcanic_Pepperbox_icon.png]] [[File:Equipment-Plague_Needle_icon.png]]
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Shield - Heat level - UV - Damage taken (px/360) - Damage taken (venom veiler poison)
  
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Regular attacks: Pepperbox and Plague Needle probably deal too little damage on their regular attacks to be worth using. They do have a good infliction rate of their status but it doesn't outweigh raw damage. Some monsters are immune or resist status, and other sources (teammates) can inflict status creating overlap.
 
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Charge attack: Blitz Charge outdamages Pepperbox against Undead. Grim Repeater does the same against Constructs. Blitz outdoes Plague since damage is better than poison you can get from other sources.
 
  
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Conclusion: Blitz and Grim are powerful. ASI and CTR. Blitz probably has more ASI uses than Grim. Slimes are slow so spamming charges on them with Grim is probably best. Against gremlins you often can't get too close either to spam regular attacks. Regular attacks only deal enough damage against Weak enemies, Charge attacks are good against Weak+Neutral.
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Grey owlite - 1 - Stun Max - 83.888% (302) - 57.500%
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Overall leaning towards CTR for Grim, ASI and CTR for Blitz. Plague Needle might have a niche use with ASI for solo play where you have no easily accessible poison. Regular attacks would probably still be powerful enough with the added dmg from poison and can be used to spray poison around. Pepperbox seems to be in a really bad spot compared to Blitz or Grim. The small reduction in base damage to compensate for the Fire Status ends up being a huge reduction in actual damage output on a normal gun that shoots 6-15 bullets.
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Grey owlite - 2 - Stun Max - 83.333% (300) - 57.222%
  
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Magnus:
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Grey owlite - 3 - Stun Max - 83.055% (299) - 56.944%
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Callahan: ASI, kind of unneeded gun. Charges against beasts and fiends won't be useful. Riftlocker and Blitz seem better options.
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Iron Slug: CTR, charge is OP. ASI is a nice extra I suppose
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Winter Grave: CTR, charge is OP but freeze hurts it a little bit. Not that it matters because it is OP. Regular attacks are probably good to flinch some gremlins. ASI is a nice extra.
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Blaster:
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Grey owlite - 4 - Stun Max - 82.500% (297) - 56.388%
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Riftlocker is good against beasts and fiends. ASI
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Grey owlite - 5 - Stun Max - 82.222% (296) - 56.111%
  
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With SL going up to higher stratums, low base damage hits get relatively weaker, so weapons with powerful charge attacks are probably better. CTR UVs are good, but then again chaos might also be an option.
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Grey owlite - 6 - Stun Max - / - /
  
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WISH LIST:
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Grey owlite - 7 - Stun Max - 80.833% (291) - 55.277%
  
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Blitz Needle CTR+ASI VH
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Grey owlite - 8 - Stun Max - 80.277% (289) - 54.722%
  
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Iron Slug CTR VH, some ASI would be nice
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Grey owlite - 9 - Stun Max - 79.722% (287) - 54.444%
  
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Grim Repeater CTR VH, some ASI would be nice
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Grey owlite - 10 - Stun Max - 78.888% (284) - 53.888%
  
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Umbra Driver ASI VH, some CTR would be nice
 
  
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Riftlocker ASI VH
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Grey owlite - 1 - Poison Max/Freeze low - 95.833% - 69.444%
  
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Mixmaster or Orbitgun for 10k CE
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Grey owlite - 10 - Stun Max/Ele Max/Norm Med - 73.055% (263) - 49.444% (178)
  
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Omega Shell - 10 - Norm High - 83.611 (301) - 66.388% (239)
  
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Acheron ASI VH+some CTR
 
  
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Turbillion ASI VH
 
  
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Celestial Saber/Levi ASI/CTR
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Scuttlebot, D19 (Beyond the axes of evil), Elite (= pure elemental damage)
  
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Obsidian Edge CTR VH
 
  
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Shield - Heat level - UV - Damage taken - Damage taken (venom veiler poison)
  
  
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Grey owlite - 1 - Stun Max - 23.055% - 11.388%
  
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Snarbolax Coat Fire+Shock Max
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Grey owlite - 2 - Stun Max - / - /
  
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Grey owlite - 3 - Stun Max - 22.777% - 11.111%
  
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Grey owlite - 4 - Stun Max - 22.500% - 11.111%
  
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Armor sets with damage bonus covered:
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Grey owlite - 5 - Stun Max - 22.222% - 11.111%
  
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Pierce+Shock+Freeze - Lacking Pierce+Poison+Fire
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Grey owlite - 6 - Stun Max - / - /
  
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Shadow+Fire+Shock+Poison+Freeze
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Grey owlite - 7 - Stun Max - 21.666% - 10.833%
  
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Lacking elemental+poison+fire+shock+freeze. No good Elemental armor except maybe Chaos.
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Grey owlite - 8 - Stun Max - 21.388% - 10.555%
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Drake scale mail is probably worth looking into. Radiant silvermail is nice with undead medium and pierce+shadow. Dragon Scale Mail is nice elemental/pierce with beast med and fire/poison.
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Shields:
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Grey owlite - 9 - Stun Max - 21.111% - 10.555%
  
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Poison/Freeze/Fire/Shock Max BTS
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Grey owlite - 10 - Stun Max - 20.833% - 10.555%
  
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Stun Max CoA
 
  
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Shock Max Jelly Shield or Shock Max DSS
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Grey owlite - 1 - Poison Max/Freeze low - 23.055% - 11.388%
  
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Grey owlite - 10 - Stun Max/Ele Max/Norm Med - 16.111% (58) - 9.166% (33)
  
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ORDER TO GET UVs:
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Omega Shell - 10 - Norm High - 31.944 (115) - 22.222% (80)
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- CTR VH Iron Slug
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- CTR VH + ASI X Blitz Needle
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- CTR VH Grim Repeater
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- ASI VH + CTR X Acheron
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- Rolling 2nd UV on Shock Max wolver coat for Fire Max
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- Rolling 2nd UV on Iron Slug, Acheron, Blitz, Grim
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- Rolling 2nd UV on FoV
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Dragon Scale Shield - 1 - No UV - 24.166% (87) - 11.944% (43)
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- Rolling 2nd UV ASI on WRH
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- Rolling 2nd UV CTR on Final Flourish
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- Rolling 3 Status Max Ancient Plate Helm (start over on a clean, go for freeze poison shock or fire) if the third troika is released, after rolling CTR VH + some ASI on Third Troika
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Crest of Almire - 10 - Elemental Max - 36.111% (130)
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Dread Skelly Shield - 10 - Stun Max + Piercing High - 39.444% (142)
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Wolver, D27 (Wolver den, clockworks), Elite
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Shield - Heat level - UV - Damage taken
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Dragon Scale Shield - 10 - Stun Max + Elemental Low - 32.777% (118/360)
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Aegis - 10 - Freeze Max + Normal Low - 32.777% (118/360)
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Wyvern Scale Shield - 10 - Stun Med + Freeze Med - 34.666% (104/300)
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Dread Skelly Shield - 10 - Stun Max + Piercing High - 47.222% (170/360)
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Royal Jelly Shield - 10 - Freeze Max + Piercing High - 28.888% (104/360)
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Void Wolver, D40(?) (Unknown Passage), Elite
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Shield - Heat level - UV - Damage taken
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Dragon Scale Shield - 10 - Stun Max + Elemental Low - 76.111% (274/360)
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Aegis - 10 - Freeze Max + Normal Low - 56.388% (203/360)
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Wyvern Scale Shield - 10 - Stun Med + Freeze Med - 76% (228/300)
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Royal Jelly Shield - 10 - Freeze Max + Piercing High - 61.111% (220/360)

Latest revision as of 23:17, 22 April 2020

Lumber, D19 (Beyond the axes of evil), Elite (= elemental, normal and stun damage)


Shield - Heat level - UV - Damage taken (px/360) - Damage taken (venom veiler poison)


Grey owlite - 1 - Stun Max - 83.888% (302) - 57.500%

Grey owlite - 2 - Stun Max - 83.333% (300) - 57.222%

Grey owlite - 3 - Stun Max - 83.055% (299) - 56.944%

Grey owlite - 4 - Stun Max - 82.500% (297) - 56.388%

Grey owlite - 5 - Stun Max - 82.222% (296) - 56.111%

Grey owlite - 6 - Stun Max - / - /

Grey owlite - 7 - Stun Max - 80.833% (291) - 55.277%

Grey owlite - 8 - Stun Max - 80.277% (289) - 54.722%

Grey owlite - 9 - Stun Max - 79.722% (287) - 54.444%

Grey owlite - 10 - Stun Max - 78.888% (284) - 53.888%


Grey owlite - 1 - Poison Max/Freeze low - 95.833% - 69.444%

Grey owlite - 10 - Stun Max/Ele Max/Norm Med - 73.055% (263) - 49.444% (178)

Omega Shell - 10 - Norm High - 83.611 (301) - 66.388% (239)


Scuttlebot, D19 (Beyond the axes of evil), Elite (= pure elemental damage)


Shield - Heat level - UV - Damage taken - Damage taken (venom veiler poison)


Grey owlite - 1 - Stun Max - 23.055% - 11.388%

Grey owlite - 2 - Stun Max - / - /

Grey owlite - 3 - Stun Max - 22.777% - 11.111%

Grey owlite - 4 - Stun Max - 22.500% - 11.111%

Grey owlite - 5 - Stun Max - 22.222% - 11.111%

Grey owlite - 6 - Stun Max - / - /

Grey owlite - 7 - Stun Max - 21.666% - 10.833%

Grey owlite - 8 - Stun Max - 21.388% - 10.555%

Grey owlite - 9 - Stun Max - 21.111% - 10.555%

Grey owlite - 10 - Stun Max - 20.833% - 10.555%


Grey owlite - 1 - Poison Max/Freeze low - 23.055% - 11.388%

Grey owlite - 10 - Stun Max/Ele Max/Norm Med - 16.111% (58) - 9.166% (33)

Omega Shell - 10 - Norm High - 31.944 (115) - 22.222% (80)

Dragon Scale Shield - 1 - No UV - 24.166% (87) - 11.944% (43)

Crest of Almire - 10 - Elemental Max - 36.111% (130)

Dread Skelly Shield - 10 - Stun Max + Piercing High - 39.444% (142)



Wolver, D27 (Wolver den, clockworks), Elite

Shield - Heat level - UV - Damage taken

Dragon Scale Shield - 10 - Stun Max + Elemental Low - 32.777% (118/360)

Aegis - 10 - Freeze Max + Normal Low - 32.777% (118/360)

Wyvern Scale Shield - 10 - Stun Med + Freeze Med - 34.666% (104/300)

Dread Skelly Shield - 10 - Stun Max + Piercing High - 47.222% (170/360)

Royal Jelly Shield - 10 - Freeze Max + Piercing High - 28.888% (104/360)



Void Wolver, D40(?) (Unknown Passage), Elite

Shield - Heat level - UV - Damage taken

Dragon Scale Shield - 10 - Stun Max + Elemental Low - 76.111% (274/360)

Aegis - 10 - Freeze Max + Normal Low - 56.388% (203/360)

Wyvern Scale Shield - 10 - Stun Med + Freeze Med - 76% (228/300)

Royal Jelly Shield - 10 - Freeze Max + Piercing High - 61.111% (220/360)

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