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With SL going up to higher stratums, low base damage hits get relatively weaker, so weapons with powerful charge attacks are probably better. CTR UVs are good, but then again chaos might also be an option.
  
 
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Shock Max Jelly Shield or Shock Max DSS
 
Shock Max Jelly Shield or Shock Max DSS
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ORDER TO GET UVs:
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- CTR VH Iron Slug
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- CTR VH + ASI X Blitz Needle
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- CTR VH Grim Repeater
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- ASI VH + CTR X Acheron
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- Rolling 2nd UV on Shock Max wolver coat for Fire Max
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- Rolling 2nd UV on Iron Slug, Acheron, Blitz, Grim
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- Rolling 2nd UV on FoV
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- Rolling 2nd UV ASI on WRH
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- Rolling 2nd UV CTR on Final Flourish
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- Rolling 3 Status Max Ancient Plate Helm (start over on a clean, go for freeze poison shock or fire) if the third troika is released, after rolling CTR VH + some ASI on Third Troika

Revision as of 11:43, 26 August 2019

Gun comparison page for personal use, to decide which guns I want to craft. Relying on wiki damage tables to compare.

Autoguns:

Equipment-Blitz Needle icon.png Equipment-Grim Repeater icon.png Equipment-Volcanic Pepperbox icon.png Equipment-Plague Needle icon.png

Regular attacks: Pepperbox and Plague Needle probably deal too little damage on their regular attacks to be worth using. They do have a good infliction rate of their status but it doesn't outweigh raw damage. Some monsters are immune or resist status, and other sources (teammates) can inflict status creating overlap. Charge attack: Blitz Charge outdamages Pepperbox against Undead. Grim Repeater does the same against Constructs. Blitz outdoes Plague since damage is better than poison you can get from other sources.

Conclusion: Blitz and Grim are powerful. ASI and CTR. Blitz probably has more ASI uses than Grim. Slimes are slow so spamming charges on them with Grim is probably best. Against gremlins you often can't get too close either to spam regular attacks. Regular attacks only deal enough damage against Weak enemies, Charge attacks are good against Weak+Neutral. Overall leaning towards CTR for Grim, ASI and CTR for Blitz. Plague Needle might have a niche use with ASI for solo play where you have no easily accessible poison. Regular attacks would probably still be powerful enough with the added dmg from poison and can be used to spray poison around. Pepperbox seems to be in a really bad spot compared to Blitz or Grim because the devs didn't take into account how their defense calculation works. The small reduction in base damage to compensate for the Fire Status ends up being a huge reduction in actual damage output on a normal gun that shoots 6-15 bullets.


Magnus: Callahan: ASI, kind of unneeded gun. Charges against beasts and fiends won't be useful. Riftlocker and Blitz seem better options. Iron Slug: CTR, charge is OP. ASI is a nice extra I suppose Winter Grave: CTR, charge is OP but freeze hurts it a little bit. Not that it matters because it is OP. Regular attacks are probably good to flinch some gremlins. ASI is a nice extra.

Blaster: Riftlocker is good against beasts and fiends. ASI


With SL going up to higher stratums, low base damage hits get relatively weaker, so weapons with powerful charge attacks are probably better. CTR UVs are good, but then again chaos might also be an option.

WISH LIST:

Blitz Needle CTR+ASI VH

Iron Slug CTR VH, some ASI would be nice

Grim Repeater CTR VH, some ASI would be nice

Umbra Driver ASI VH, some CTR would be nice

Riftlocker ASI VH

Mixmaster or Orbitgun for 10k CE


Acheron ASI VH+some CTR

Turbillion ASI VH

Celestial Saber/Levi ASI/CTR

Obsidian Edge CTR VH



Snarbolax Coat Fire+Shock Max


Armor sets with damage bonus covered:

Pierce+Shock+Freeze - Lacking Pierce+Poison+Fire

Shadow+Fire+Shock+Poison+Freeze

Lacking elemental+poison+fire+shock+freeze. No good Elemental armor except maybe Chaos. Drake scale mail is probably worth looking into. Radiant silvermail is nice with undead medium and pierce+shadow. Dragon Scale Mail is nice elemental/pierce with beast med and fire/poison.

Shields:

Poison/Freeze/Fire/Shock Max BTS

Stun Max CoA

Shock Max Jelly Shield or Shock Max DSS


ORDER TO GET UVs: - CTR VH Iron Slug - CTR VH + ASI X Blitz Needle - CTR VH Grim Repeater - ASI VH + CTR X Acheron - Rolling 2nd UV on Shock Max wolver coat for Fire Max - Rolling 2nd UV on Iron Slug, Acheron, Blitz, Grim

- Rolling 2nd UV on FoV - Rolling 2nd UV ASI on WRH - Rolling 2nd UV CTR on Final Flourish

- Rolling 3 Status Max Ancient Plate Helm (start over on a clean, go for freeze poison shock or fire) if the third troika is released, after rolling CTR VH + some ASI on Third Troika

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