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== Impostocube Rare Drops ==
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I found a volcanic dapper combo from an impostocube, but I don't know how to add it to the drop table with the nice icon and link, I'm new here. Can someone do this ?    Sep-8-2013 Surangama
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==Royal Jelly==
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Royal jelly should be notable, and it's minis.
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==Creep Cake==
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The 4/4/2012 update added "Creep Cakes". Although they do not seem to belong to a monster family, I have placed them in the "jelly cube" section since the Creep Cakes behave almost identically.
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:Seems like they pretty much just modelswapped jellies to make the creep cakes, but they are separate monsters, and they have their own page. I don't think they belong here. [[User:Jimbo Jambo|Jimbo Jambo]] 02:00, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
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== Brute Jelly Cube ==
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Just want to know... has anyone seen the Brute Jelly Cube recently (no more than two weeks ago)? I play on low quality in Tier 2 but the non-miniature jelly cubes I see have a pinkish tint to it, indicating that it's just a normal jelly cube (or so I suspect, I could be wrong!). [[User:Saphykun|Saphykun]] 15:49, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 
Just want to know... has anyone seen the Brute Jelly Cube recently (no more than two weeks ago)? I play on low quality in Tier 2 but the non-miniature jelly cubes I see have a pinkish tint to it, indicating that it's just a normal jelly cube (or so I suspect, I could be wrong!). [[User:Saphykun|Saphykun]] 15:49, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 
:I think that's the new art for the Brute Jelly. On a higher end PC they look notably more shiny than the regular pink jelly and have sort of a translucent appearance of bubbles inside. --[[User:D0gr0ck|D0gr0ck]] 18:52, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 
:I think that's the new art for the Brute Jelly. On a higher end PC they look notably more shiny than the regular pink jelly and have sort of a translucent appearance of bubbles inside. --[[User:D0gr0ck|D0gr0ck]] 18:52, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 
::For some reason all of the Jellies no matter what Tier appear as the thumbnail shows. [[file:Blank_Jellies.png|thumb]] Are the game admins doing anything about this? [[User:Charoum|Charoum]] 19:47, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 
::For some reason all of the Jellies no matter what Tier appear as the thumbnail shows. [[file:Blank_Jellies.png|thumb]] Are the game admins doing anything about this? [[User:Charoum|Charoum]] 19:47, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
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:Aren't brute jellies just more opaque pink jellies now? There're definitely two different kinds of pink jelly, the opaque ones do more damage and take less. I assume they're brutes. --[[User:Fractals|Fractals]] 05:25, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
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::I believe the larger, darker pink Jelly Cubes replaced Brute Cubes as the Tier 2 version of Jelly Cubes. I'm not so sure that those are called Brute Jelly Cubes, however. I've only seen "melted" Ice Cubes using the blue jelly skin, so perhaps that's where they went. As for the "blank" jellies in the thumbnail, that's due to Compatibility mode enabled for advanced video options. It might be forced on for some integrated cards. [[User:Maget|Maget]] 05:43, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
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:::There's no longer such thing as a Brute Jelly. It should be removed at this point. --[[User:Equinox|Equinox]] 23:51, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
  
 
== Royal Mini Weakness ==
 
== Royal Mini Weakness ==
It appears that Royal Mini's weakness is swapped with elemental and shadow.  Meaning, they are weak against Elemental but neutral on Shadow.  Is this a bug?  Anyone else experiencing this?  My friend's avenger (no UV to jellys or anything like that) hits higher than my faust level 10.  His avenger when hitting them shows gold weakness stars everywhere while mine doesn't.  (Shows blue I think?)  Is this a bug?
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It appears that Royal Mini's weakness is swapped with elemental and shadow.  Meaning, they are weak against Elemental but neutral on Shadow.  Is this a bug?  Anyone else experiencing this?  My friend's avenger (no UV to jellys or anything like that) hits higher than my faust level 10.  His avenger when hitting them shows gold weakness stars everywhere while mine doesn't.  (Shows blue I think?)  Is this a bug? --[[User:Mike|Mike]] 04:14, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 
*I've noticed the same thing. Don't know if it's a bug or not. Also, sign your posts [[User:Conrad500|Conrad500]] 00:58, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 
*I've noticed the same thing. Don't know if it's a bug or not. Also, sign your posts [[User:Conrad500|Conrad500]] 00:58, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
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**They seem to only be weak to shadow when I use the 3rd swing of the Silent Nightblade, I don't think this was intended...? [[User:Xiger|Xiger]] 11:56, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
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TheReaver has posted that they are weak to Elemental and Shadow.  How was this tested?  How do they react to normal and piercing?  I've observed myself that they seem to take roughly equal damage from Elemental and Shadow, but I don't know whether that means they're weak to both or neutral to both. Remember, the damage colors are often misleading. --[[User:Antistone|Antistone]] 17:35, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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:I've had the same results using a Voltedge and an Acheron.  First, second, and third hits are identical with both swords on the jelly minis (tested it a few days ago out of curiosity, no slime UVs on either sword).  I don't know how we'd be able to test piercing, since there's no normal/piercing split weapon we could test with :/  [[User:ExTribble|ExTribble]] 16:15, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
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::Did a test with my Final Flourish, the numbers are gray and less than half the damage of my Glacius or Faust; that seems like a pretty solid indication that they're resistant to piercing, and probably weak to elemental and shadow (OR to normal).  They don't seem to take ''quite'' the same amount of damage as a Jelly Cube does from any of these weapons, though. --[[User:Antistone|Antistone]] 00:41, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
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:::Agreed, their weakness to shadow/elemental seems like a partial weakness.  Never brought a piercing weapon to jelly runs because, well... it's not helpful, but good to know :P Also, I'd say they aren't weak to normal, because none of the three hits of a Levi turn orange to indicate a weakness.  Granted, the colors aren't always consistent, but considering both elemental swords and shadow swords (3 hit ones) show orange on the third hit and a Levi doesn't, I think it's safe to assume the jellies aren't even partially weak to normal.  [[User:ExTribble|ExTribble]] 22:31, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
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I'm sorry, I didn't know that this topic had all this controversy behind it, And I went right ahead and speculated without testing. The damage--[[User:TheReaver|TheReaver]] 03:05, 18 March 2012 (UTC) indicator does seem to have some problems as when I use a Faust, the second swing registers as normal instead of being weak to it.
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==Impostocube==
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Regarding the Impostocube, I've run into these twice, and both times they dropped a gold coin (50 crowns) in addition to what appeared to be normal jelly cube drops. And this is on a depth where no other monsters were dropping gold coins. Can anyone else confirm whether these either get an extra gold coin or just have increased total crowns? --[[User:Prestige|Prestige]] 23:19, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
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:He's probably just rich.-[[User:xPlad|xPlad]]
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==Rock Jelly Cube==
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Wouldn't the Rock Jelly Cube be considered a notable (rare) spawn now? Post-release, I have met less Rock Jelly Cubes than Impostocubes.
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If you did not figure: Rock Jelly Cubes no longer have natural spawns, however, will rarely spawn in place of a stone block. (Those blocks that can take three hits before being destroyed. --[[User:Kakelgis|Kakelgis]] 01:17, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
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:I just encountered one for the first time today. I don't know what they're called, but it spawns in the Vanaduke Citadel levels. Here's a screenshot I took. http://bit.ly/muh6jy [[User:Sunburnt|Sunburnt]] 01:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
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== Blast Cube/Tier Versions of Monsters ==
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Also, technically there is now just the Blast Cube.  Those other two are showing the versions for Tiers 2 & 3 respectively.  We could just keep them separate and do the same for other monsters.  Just depends on how people feel about it.  Or we could rework the template and have an option where three images are shown to depict each tier type?  --[[User:Equinox|Equinox]] 03:35, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
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We should fuse them into one Monster, like we did with the Gun Puppies and so on. --[[User:Zardica|Zardica]] 20:15, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
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I still think that showing their appearance for each Tier would be more.. "informative" seeing as this is a wiki --[[User:Xiger|Xiger]] 12:00, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
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== Hubert ==
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Should Hubert, the blue, despiked scenario room jelly, be added under notables? Also, is that what brute jellies looked like when they existed? [[User:Jimbo Jambo|Jimbo Jambo]] 02:37, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:35, 8 September 2013

Impostocube Rare Drops

I found a volcanic dapper combo from an impostocube, but I don't know how to add it to the drop table with the nice icon and link, I'm new here. Can someone do this ? Sep-8-2013 Surangama

Royal Jelly

Royal jelly should be notable, and it's minis.

Creep Cake

The 4/4/2012 update added "Creep Cakes". Although they do not seem to belong to a monster family, I have placed them in the "jelly cube" section since the Creep Cakes behave almost identically.

Seems like they pretty much just modelswapped jellies to make the creep cakes, but they are separate monsters, and they have their own page. I don't think they belong here. Jimbo Jambo 02:00, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Brute Jelly Cube

Just want to know... has anyone seen the Brute Jelly Cube recently (no more than two weeks ago)? I play on low quality in Tier 2 but the non-miniature jelly cubes I see have a pinkish tint to it, indicating that it's just a normal jelly cube (or so I suspect, I could be wrong!). Saphykun 15:49, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

I think that's the new art for the Brute Jelly. On a higher end PC they look notably more shiny than the regular pink jelly and have sort of a translucent appearance of bubbles inside. --D0gr0ck 18:52, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
For some reason all of the Jellies no matter what Tier appear as the thumbnail shows.
Blank Jellies.png
Are the game admins doing anything about this? Charoum 19:47, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Aren't brute jellies just more opaque pink jellies now? There're definitely two different kinds of pink jelly, the opaque ones do more damage and take less. I assume they're brutes. --Fractals 05:25, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
I believe the larger, darker pink Jelly Cubes replaced Brute Cubes as the Tier 2 version of Jelly Cubes. I'm not so sure that those are called Brute Jelly Cubes, however. I've only seen "melted" Ice Cubes using the blue jelly skin, so perhaps that's where they went. As for the "blank" jellies in the thumbnail, that's due to Compatibility mode enabled for advanced video options. It might be forced on for some integrated cards. Maget 05:43, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
There's no longer such thing as a Brute Jelly. It should be removed at this point. --Equinox 23:51, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Royal Mini Weakness

It appears that Royal Mini's weakness is swapped with elemental and shadow. Meaning, they are weak against Elemental but neutral on Shadow. Is this a bug? Anyone else experiencing this? My friend's avenger (no UV to jellys or anything like that) hits higher than my faust level 10. His avenger when hitting them shows gold weakness stars everywhere while mine doesn't. (Shows blue I think?) Is this a bug? --Mike 04:14, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

  • I've noticed the same thing. Don't know if it's a bug or not. Also, sign your posts Conrad500 00:58, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
    • They seem to only be weak to shadow when I use the 3rd swing of the Silent Nightblade, I don't think this was intended...? Xiger 11:56, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

TheReaver has posted that they are weak to Elemental and Shadow. How was this tested? How do they react to normal and piercing? I've observed myself that they seem to take roughly equal damage from Elemental and Shadow, but I don't know whether that means they're weak to both or neutral to both. Remember, the damage colors are often misleading. --Antistone 17:35, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

I've had the same results using a Voltedge and an Acheron. First, second, and third hits are identical with both swords on the jelly minis (tested it a few days ago out of curiosity, no slime UVs on either sword). I don't know how we'd be able to test piercing, since there's no normal/piercing split weapon we could test with :/ ExTribble 16:15, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Did a test with my Final Flourish, the numbers are gray and less than half the damage of my Glacius or Faust; that seems like a pretty solid indication that they're resistant to piercing, and probably weak to elemental and shadow (OR to normal). They don't seem to take quite the same amount of damage as a Jelly Cube does from any of these weapons, though. --Antistone 00:41, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Agreed, their weakness to shadow/elemental seems like a partial weakness. Never brought a piercing weapon to jelly runs because, well... it's not helpful, but good to know :P Also, I'd say they aren't weak to normal, because none of the three hits of a Levi turn orange to indicate a weakness. Granted, the colors aren't always consistent, but considering both elemental swords and shadow swords (3 hit ones) show orange on the third hit and a Levi doesn't, I think it's safe to assume the jellies aren't even partially weak to normal. ExTribble 22:31, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I didn't know that this topic had all this controversy behind it, And I went right ahead and speculated without testing. The damage--TheReaver 03:05, 18 March 2012 (UTC) indicator does seem to have some problems as when I use a Faust, the second swing registers as normal instead of being weak to it.

Impostocube

Regarding the Impostocube, I've run into these twice, and both times they dropped a gold coin (50 crowns) in addition to what appeared to be normal jelly cube drops. And this is on a depth where no other monsters were dropping gold coins. Can anyone else confirm whether these either get an extra gold coin or just have increased total crowns? --Prestige 23:19, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

He's probably just rich.-xPlad

Rock Jelly Cube

Wouldn't the Rock Jelly Cube be considered a notable (rare) spawn now? Post-release, I have met less Rock Jelly Cubes than Impostocubes.

If you did not figure: Rock Jelly Cubes no longer have natural spawns, however, will rarely spawn in place of a stone block. (Those blocks that can take three hits before being destroyed. --Kakelgis 01:17, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I just encountered one for the first time today. I don't know what they're called, but it spawns in the Vanaduke Citadel levels. Here's a screenshot I took. http://bit.ly/muh6jy Sunburnt 01:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Blast Cube/Tier Versions of Monsters

Also, technically there is now just the Blast Cube. Those other two are showing the versions for Tiers 2 & 3 respectively. We could just keep them separate and do the same for other monsters. Just depends on how people feel about it. Or we could rework the template and have an option where three images are shown to depict each tier type? --Equinox 03:35, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

We should fuse them into one Monster, like we did with the Gun Puppies and so on. --Zardica 20:15, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

I still think that showing their appearance for each Tier would be more.. "informative" seeing as this is a wiki --Xiger 12:00, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Hubert

Should Hubert, the blue, despiked scenario room jelly, be added under notables? Also, is that what brute jellies looked like when they existed? Jimbo Jambo 02:37, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

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