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==More recent request ==
 
:Would it be okay for us editors to carefully attempt to make high quality versions of these as accurately as possible, since they seem to be unavailable officially? -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 10:29, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 
::I think we should start a discussion in the forums and see what the community says. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 01:44, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 
 
==New Sprite Gallery==
 
Ah those galleries are a mess. I've put templated galleries on all the talk pages of sprites. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:17, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 
:They were just waiting there for files to be moved :3 -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:17, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 
::And we're deciding what to do about overworld group pics, so they're not currently in the "gallery template." -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:18, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 
::: Only a few more files to go, should be done in a few minutes! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 21:19, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 
:Done! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 01:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 
 
==Images down the road==
 
Should we make a tag that says "this image is fine don't worry about copyright, confirmed by Wiki Admin" for future editors, so you or other GMs down the road don't have to go through them again in case overly concerned editors tag them again because they weren't paying attention to edit history? -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:02, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 
:Definitely not - there is a very limited way in which some copyrighted images may be used in wikis. The copyvio template should only be used when the source is found and the image is in fact a copyright violation under the terms of their license. There's a lot of information about the limited uses for non-free content [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Acceptable_use here]. As a rule of thumb we don't edit user pages (except our own) unless there's a blatant infringement of our terms or copyright laws. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 01:08, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 
 
Good to know. Just trying to reduce repeated workloads. Due to the IRS constantly on my back for an issue (on THEIR end) already years in the past, I'm very paranoid about legal issues :P -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:16, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 
:I agree that we should be mindful about using copyrighted work! (I also just realized I didn't add the source for the images but at least we have most in the history). Because these are user pages, in some cases the use of images falls under [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Fair_use_images fair use]. It's not a blanket permission, however. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 01:25, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 
 
==Moved Images==
 
I neglected to tag this one: [[:File:BattleSprite Drakon Gun Pup ultimates 1.png]]. Please move to "File:Battle Sprite-Drakon (Gun Pup) T3 A preview.png" I plan on uploading new versions of these sometime in the far future - they will look like the ones on the [[Maskeraith (Spiralhorn)]] page, full inspect window views so the size of the adorable things can be compared easily. But that's way down the road and such, for now, we need easy galleries to use for future sprites and images to show up, so these moves were much needed and appreciated. Thanks again! -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:40, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 
 
: Moved! The images look great, just be careful not to take on too many jobs :) --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 01:43, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 
 
Thanks, that means a lot :) -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:03, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 
 
==Extremely Speedy Deletion==
 
I was fooling around in a sandbox page I made [[March of the Tortodrones/Sandbox|here]], but for some reason it doesn't register as a subpage. I'm done with it, could you delete this ASAP so it stops messing around with casual wiki searches? Thanks, --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 14:22, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 
:Done! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 16:50, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 
  
 
==Gear Halo Stuff==
 
==Gear Halo Stuff==
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::::This is working. The gear halos are all consistently matching up (what we've found so far). I think maybe I didn't explain the process very well to support when I asked about it. It doesn't involve external programs. Granted the process we use should not be broadcasted/well-known for economic reasons (and it doesn't really work for extra special things), but editors... What is your opinion? Can we start seriously doing things this way? As long as we find some representative in the item in the game first (a lot of the problem we have is getting to the item fast enough before people equip it so we can get the tooltip, once an accessory is equipped we lose access to the tooltip and have to find a different unattached one, for rare accessories this is particularly irritating), compare it to the file we produce, and if they match up, publish it on the wiki? I'd like to try  one more time to get official permission to do this, since it's working. I understand if no. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:02, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 
::::This is working. The gear halos are all consistently matching up (what we've found so far). I think maybe I didn't explain the process very well to support when I asked about it. It doesn't involve external programs. Granted the process we use should not be broadcasted/well-known for economic reasons (and it doesn't really work for extra special things), but editors... What is your opinion? Can we start seriously doing things this way? As long as we find some representative in the item in the game first (a lot of the problem we have is getting to the item fast enough before people equip it so we can get the tooltip, once an accessory is equipped we lose access to the tooltip and have to find a different unattached one, for rare accessories this is particularly irritating), compare it to the file we produce, and if they match up, publish it on the wiki? I'd like to try  one more time to get official permission to do this, since it's working. I understand if no. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:02, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:::That has already been reviewed by a supervisor. If you like to discuss this further it needs to be escalated again via request. That said, we should only use screenshots taken directly from the game. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 21:50, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 
:::That has already been reviewed by a supervisor. If you like to discuss this further it needs to be escalated again via request. That said, we should only use screenshots taken directly from the game. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 21:50, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 
==List of Missions==
 
Your Feb 8, 2015 edit on the [[List of missions]] page (adding back in a "needs updating" template for "mission rewards") conflicts with the July 8, 2014 edit I made on the page (updated all rank mission rewards and removed the "needs updating" template). --[[User:BlarghBlargh|SkepticRaven]] 04:14, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 
::Replied [[User_talk:BlarghBlargh#List_of_missions|here]] --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 17:46, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 
 
==Exploration: Scenario Room Images==
 
Just to let you know, we might be reorganizing how we name area images - a few of us are slowly working on a map+visual example project. You can see the bulk WiP [[User:Novaster/Sandbox|in my sandbox]] and a live example on the [[March of the Tortodrones#Arcade_Gallery|MotT]] page. This is just a heads up about it - would it be better for us editors to download and reupload the files to the new names and delete the old ones (I don't like that, recall our battle sprite gallery project), or do that and not delete them, or have you move them? That is, if we decide we need to rename them - we probably will. We'd just like to know what would be best regarding the files, wiki history data, and your work time. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:03, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 
 
==CaKe sLiCe==
 
Can we move the [[:File:Token-Cake slice.png]] to [[:File:Token-Cake Slice.png]]? The capital letter issues make things difficult and I'd like to retain file history. I checked over other token files, no other issues regarding capital letters. Thanks! -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 08:06, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 
: Something booched during the move and gave me internal errors. Tried to fix as best as possible. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 03:48, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 

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Gear Halo Stuff

My friend figured out a nice way to get images of the other gear halos, but we asked support about it and they said we shouldn't do it this way and they're sowwie. Could you take care of the ones I tagged? The regal, volcanic, and toasty were captured in-game, with regal/toasty from AH and volc from a user's trade window. So those can stay. :( -Novaster 17:38, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Replied here --Clotho 18:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Oh, just delete, since support said "you'll want to remove." -Novaster 20:32, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Sooo. Can we just leave those alone and put the method aside as a general "well it's great but it's sort of got the flavor of being a vigilante so don't do it," and just upload new files in the future if they ever turn out to be wrong? If so I'll just remove the "delete" tags and add notes to the files. -Novaster 22:03, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Yeeeeeah just gonna remove the tag or let it stay based on what we find in-game. If the coloration is wrong, we'll just upload the new one. If it's right, we'll restore the proper tag. Is this okay? -Novaster 21:03, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. --Clotho 04:29, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
This is working. The gear halos are all consistently matching up (what we've found so far). I think maybe I didn't explain the process very well to support when I asked about it. It doesn't involve external programs. Granted the process we use should not be broadcasted/well-known for economic reasons (and it doesn't really work for extra special things), but editors... What is your opinion? Can we start seriously doing things this way? As long as we find some representative in the item in the game first (a lot of the problem we have is getting to the item fast enough before people equip it so we can get the tooltip, once an accessory is equipped we lose access to the tooltip and have to find a different unattached one, for rare accessories this is particularly irritating), compare it to the file we produce, and if they match up, publish it on the wiki? I'd like to try one more time to get official permission to do this, since it's working. I understand if no. -Novaster 20:02, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
That has already been reviewed by a supervisor. If you like to discuss this further it needs to be escalated again via request. That said, we should only use screenshots taken directly from the game. --Clotho 21:50, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
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