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I cringe at the thought of these guys... I hate gun puppies! All of them! Of course, that isn't the point! Let's see if anyone has actually made it this far, and if so, what actually do these guys DO? We need to start getting a guide together on these two freaks. :) Organize your thoughts here, and together we can made a guide! --[[User:Kazamh|Kazamh]] 03:19, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 
I cringe at the thought of these guys... I hate gun puppies! All of them! Of course, that isn't the point! Let's see if anyone has actually made it this far, and if so, what actually do these guys DO? We need to start getting a guide together on these two freaks. :) Organize your thoughts here, and together we can made a guide! --[[User:Kazamh|Kazamh]] 03:19, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
  
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::Wow, you have been really helpful. I kind of feel bad being surprised and all that someone has actually done them. I knew you had done the Snarbolax, because I have seen you with his armor, but wow! All of them! I am amazed, and indeed impressed! --[[User:Kazamh|Kazamh]] 12:46, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 
::Wow, you have been really helpful. I kind of feel bad being surprised and all that someone has actually done them. I knew you had done the Snarbolax, because I have seen you with his armor, but wow! All of them! I am amazed, and indeed impressed! --[[User:Kazamh|Kazamh]] 12:46, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
  
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So, how is this then? Review and change it as this is just a draft, just wanting to try and get a feel of it together!
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One player stands by a switch, and they alone control the switch and the walls. All other players should be keeping the scuttlebots off them and making sure they don't die while waiting for one of the twins to become stunned from a rocket.
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If anyone would wish to rewrite the current description, please do so here. We should include weaknesses to weapons, if any, and what attacks actually do fire damage (to prepare others). --[[User:Kazamh|Kazamh]] 10:24, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
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=== Tactics ===
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There are two major factors to this boss fight that can significantly alter how easy or hard it is regardless of group size - switch use, and the scuttlebots; most issues are caused when teammates are confused and hit the switches before rockets pass them, or when said bots interrupt a switch-user's schedule. Communication is key on this stage and barring voice chat it is suggested that parties dole out roles for the battle ahead before taking it on. Note that in this version there are 8 scuttlebot spawn-pads.
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The Roarmulus twins go through 3 phases of battle, and tactics are listed for each form below. Please note that each twin, when sufficiently damaged, will 'move on' to the next phase before its brother; the Tactics assume both twins have reached the same phase.
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You hate all gun puppies? What about love puppies?
  
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'''PHASE 1)''' The Roarmulus twins only fire from the middle, and do not move to the sides. This piece is fairly easy, as all you need to do is time your switch hits so that one side's rockets travel over and hit the other twin. NOTE: Rockets will cancel each other out, so once you decide which twin you want to hit, bring the wall up that's closer to his side - this will destroy his rockets early while allowing the other's to pass through, and reduce the chances of them canceling each other out. Once the victim twin is struck, a yellow arrow will point to him indicating he is immobilized - use this as your chance to deal some damage. These missiles will switch between shock and fire damage, so it is advised that you yourself are not hit by them.
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==Strategy==
  
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Once a twin is damaged enough, he will gain a purple "shield" in front, blocking all future attacks - it is then that you need to switch targets and attack the other twin to continue.
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===Tactics===
  
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'''PHASE 2)''' Once both twins are damaged sufficiently, the second phase begins - the only difference here is that both twins now move up and down in addition to their regular attacks, although they will never move while in the middle of an attack. Where this becomes difficult is the fact that players will often guide one twin's rockets over to the other side only to have them miss because the other twin moves at the last second.
 
  
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The solution is simple - fire where they're going to be, not where they are. Wait until a twin moves first off of the lane his brother is in, and then follow the same tactic you would for Phase 1; it doesn't always prove successful (at the moment it appears the twin's movements are sporadic, although it is speculated they will go to wherever there are more players), but the chances are high that the other twin will finish attacking and "move into" the lane occupied by rockets, immobilizing it before it has a chance to attack again.
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== Copied Strategy ==
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Instead of repeating the original roarmulus strategy, we should link to it and only comment on some of the differences. [[User:Juances|Juances]] 17:23, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
  
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Repeat this until both puppies are sufficiently damaged.
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No, as there are people who have not done original roarmulus but will be doing this one. It is a convenience more than anything really. It is more convenient to copy it over here and edit it to match this fight then link to the original and comment on differences, as they would have to go back and forth between pages. --[[User:Kazamh|Kazamh]] 17:26, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
  
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'''PHASE 3)''' Phase 3 is exactly the same as Phase 2 in terms of both tactics and attack patterns, except for 2 major differences. First, both twins are now capable of a lane-wide laser attack that goes from one end of the screen to the other (but is blocked by walls - use this to your advantage!). The laser damages and normally immediately destroys the scuttlebots when it hits them. The lasers are fire-based in this version. Second, only ONE twin needs to be damaged sufficiently in this phase - once he is destroyed, the other goes away, and the battle is over.
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:... Wait. What differences? Strategy is identical. [[User:Magnus|Magnus]] 19:15, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
  
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::Lawl! I don't think there were any changes to the strategy when I copied it, except for stating the attacks that cause fire. It would be a pretty empty page without what little is up.
  
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With all of this in mind, it is generally suggested that (assuming there is a full party) one to two players (generally those able to easily communicate with each other) handle switches, and the other 2 handle the robots. Bringing a bomb or weapon capable of freezing monsters is recommended, as it will prevent them from moving without killing them (as new ones always respawn a short time after death).
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== Weaknesses and best weapons ==
  
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Due to the nature of the fight, status effect vials have little to no effect or helpful purpose against the boss, so it is suggested that these slots be saved for Health Capsules or Status Remedy pills instead.
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The rabid Snarby has a section telling what it is weak against and what weapons do the most damage- could we get that here too plz?

Latest revision as of 23:26, 30 November 2011

I cringe at the thought of these guys... I hate gun puppies! All of them! Of course, that isn't the point! Let's see if anyone has actually made it this far, and if so, what actually do these guys DO? We need to start getting a guide together on these two freaks. :) Organize your thoughts here, and together we can made a guide! --Kazamh 03:19, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Nothing different. Some missiles are just fire-based, it's random. Lasers are fire based, too. The only real difference is that there's four more Scuttlebot spawns. (Still insulted btw.) Magnus 07:02, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Wow, you have been really helpful. I kind of feel bad being surprised and all that someone has actually done them. I knew you had done the Snarbolax, because I have seen you with his armor, but wow! All of them! I am amazed, and indeed impressed! --Kazamh 12:46, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

If anyone would wish to rewrite the current description, please do so here. We should include weaknesses to weapons, if any, and what attacks actually do fire damage (to prepare others). --Kazamh 10:24, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

You hate all gun puppies? What about love puppies?

Strategy

Tactics

Copied Strategy

Instead of repeating the original roarmulus strategy, we should link to it and only comment on some of the differences. Juances 17:23, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

No, as there are people who have not done original roarmulus but will be doing this one. It is a convenience more than anything really. It is more convenient to copy it over here and edit it to match this fight then link to the original and comment on differences, as they would have to go back and forth between pages. --Kazamh 17:26, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

... Wait. What differences? Strategy is identical. Magnus 19:15, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Lawl! I don't think there were any changes to the strategy when I copied it, except for stating the attacks that cause fire. It would be a pretty empty page without what little is up.

Weaknesses and best weapons

The rabid Snarby has a section telling what it is weak against and what weapons do the most damage- could we get that here too plz?

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