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Sprite Image

My goodness, that is really bad! I thought for sure that would work. Would it be prudent to give a warning near the gallery about the visual problems/appearance on the Maskeraith (Snarblepup) page until sufficient time has passed? --Novaster 20:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I went ahead and did it - this should save whatever trouble it might have caused. Should. --Novaster 21:02, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that works, thank you. --Clotho 01:15, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

The image seems to have updated itself for most users. Hurray. Sorry that deletion didn't clear the cache issue like I thought it would, so, won't be asking for that again. --Novaster 16:55, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion: Sprite Images

Okay! A lot of sprite visuals have finally been updated to proper file names. A few redirects that nothing links to and files that are out of date and moved etc. should now be fully deleted as the final clean up step. As a result of this project, file names are now consistent for every sprite page, and the infobox has a consistent file name behavior with other infoboxes that portray items that have available tooltip visuals (my opinion of "equipped" for these files is one of OCD/past decisions before we had tooltips and I won't go into it). Much of this has been discussed before and is stored in your archives. This should be the last step! Several images still need updating to the full inspect window size, but they are in the new/consistent file name space. Other users are working on this too, and it's a fun project.

The following files/pages need to be blasted with a laser to finish the job once and for all, and to remove any confusion future editors might have:

• File:Battle Sprite Drakon Evolved.png‎ (moved from before and super thanks! Please delete this redirect if doing so doesn't cause issues)
• File:Battle Sprite Seraphynx Evolved.png‎ (moved from before and super thanks! Please delete this redirect if doing so doesn't cause issues)
• File:Battle Sprite Maskeraith Evolved.png‎ (moved from before and super thanks! Please delete this redirect if doing so doesn't cause issues)
• File:Battle Sprite Seraphynx (Black Kat) Evolved.png‎
• File:Battle Sprite Drakon (Gun Pup) Evolved.png‎ (moved from before and super thanks! Please delete this redirect if doing so doesn't cause issues)
• File:Battle Sprite Maskeraith (Punkin) Evolved.png‎ (moved from before and super thanks! Please delete this redirect if doing so doesn't cause issues)
• File:Battle Sprite Maskeraith (Spiralhorn) Evolved.png‎
• File:Battle Sprite Drakon (Divine) Evolved.png‎
• File:Battle Sprite Drakon (Shadow) Evolved.png‎
• File:Battle Sprite Maskeraith (Freeze) Evolved.png‎
• File:Battle Sprite Maskeraith (Snarblepup) Evolved.png‎
• File:Battle Sprite Maskeraith (Volcanic) Evolved.png‎
• File:Battle Sprite Seraphynx (Siamese) Evolved.png‎
• File:Battle Sprite Seraphynx (Tabby) Evolved.png‎

Thanks, --Novaster 16:55, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Might as well zap this one too: File:Token-Cake slice.png. Pew pew! It has a similar flavor to the above. Went through and fixed various links so it should be good to go. Good to go AWAY. --Novaster 18:15, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Done! --Clotho 22:12, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Hurray! Thanks --Novaster 01:02, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

GM Images

Images like this one and several others are protected from general editors. I have a feeling that this was due to some default setting of the account type of the user who uploaded these (where is Equinox btw? Last I saw them was here), because it seems silly to lock most of these from editors. Gotta love un/checked boxes!

We'd like to be able to update these, since it's generally preferable to update an image with a new image so file history is organized, even though the wiki has those cache issues. And they're no longer up to date. Then again, there's still images of the beta on the Screenshot Section of the Main Media Page. Yeah, we can all see that Angelic Helmet (Beta).

It would probably be a lot of work for you...but I think unprotecting any image that isn't a direct billing thing or official concept art would be a good idea. There's a lot of them. Unless there was a reason? Well, anyway, they're still out of date. --Novaster 11:50, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

this image is linked from a preview post on the forum, therefore needs to be protected. If the images need updating, then replace them in the pages rather than uploading new images. If we have them linked to specific posts elsewhere, it makes sense to keep them as is for historical reasons. --Clotho 21:35, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

I see...well, good to know. The above supply pack icon moves are becoming a priority for us, I think. The OCH issue is less pressing. Oh, would adding the obsolete tag be prudent? This is something we can't do if the file is protected, and is more work for you. A GM decision for the wiki I suppose. --Novaster 21:55, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Supply Pack Icons

A few of us are working on missions. Wow! How many years has it been since missions were introduced, and we still don't have pages for a lot of 'em! Well, better late than never.

Please move the following to the following:

• File:Equipment- Standard Supply Pack icon.png to File:Crafting-Standard Supply Pack.png
• File:Equipment- Compact Supply Pack icon.png to File:Crafting-Compact Supply Pack.png
• File:Equipment- Deluxe Supply Pack icon.png to File:Crafting-Deluxe Supply Pack.png

The should show up in the table on the Supply Pack page when that page is saved after the moves.

Reasons:

• General: Bad filenames. These items are not equipment. Also, there is an annoying space after the hyphen. Editors should be able to use the proper linking templates. Shame on my 2013 self. Shame.
• Every other mat has Crafting-blahblah for its name, even though not all materials are used in crafting, and even though they are icons they don't have icon in the name. Just goin with the old norm 'cause it's too much of a hassle to change these to be "right," especially when nobody sees the filename except editors and the ultra curious. Same ocd issue with BlahBlah-Equipped after tooltips were introduced. After moving the files, please delete the originals after all "what links here" are taken care of. I'll post here when that's done.
• We want to retain file history, because some people like old icons and time stamps - a discussion we've already agreed on :)

I'll probably ask something about OCH in a bit that involves billing on its own subpage and unprotecting the actual mission page. Thanks! --Novaster 20:13, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm getting an internal error qhen trying to move the files. It's possible the move will not be possible. Sorry! --Clotho 16:56, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I shall tackle it best I can with the permissions I have. --Novaster 17:35, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

I did what is likely the next best thing to a move. Wiki just needs to tick through its silly cache issues and it will be smooth sailing. The bad filenames are ready for deletion now, nothing links to them. Thanks for trying! Computers can be so feisty sometimes. They definitely have moods. Now to pester about OCH options for the next...future time unit(s).--Novaster 18:12, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Operation Crimson Hammer

Okay! As you can see, several of us are working on getting anything mission related up to date, and Operation Crimson Hammer (OCH) is a mission - expansion subtype. Editors really need to be able to edit this page, because it is a large part of the game and connected to several things. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can tell, the only reason it's locked to general editors is because it has Billing information. My solution to this problem:

Create the subpage: Operation Crimson Hammer/Billing and protect that.

Have {{main|Operation Crimson Hammer/Billing}} in an acquisition section somewhere on the OCH page, and let the main OCH page be edited by us (unprotect it).

Unless it was protected for some other reason? Could we have a similar solution(s) for that if so?

Thanks,

--Novaster 11:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

That page is linked to our billing documentation therefore it needs to be protected in full, not just part of it. An alternative would be to make the changes in a sandbox, once ready, let me know and I'll update the changes in the page itself. --Clotho 17:00, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

That's going to be a bit difficult. Editors really need to be able to freely edit a page that's such a large interactive and dynamic part of the game. That makes a lot of hassle to unprotect/protect a page on staff end over time. It's not possible to create Operation Crimson Hammer/Billing, protect that, and then adjust billing documentation to link to that page instead? If not, I'll have to work something out on our end, but it likely won't be as pretty. --Novaster 17:34, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Missions

We have been pushing improvements regarding mission page format and organization on the wiki. I notice that there are several admin-related entities on the mission page. Before we go through reformatting and merging, are there any specific things editors shouldn't remove, or that staff wishes to emphasize, on the missions page? Of specific concern to me (due to our previous discussion about this image) are subsection linking and images in relation to the forums. --Novaster 18:06, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Go ahead and work as you would, just be careful that important historical information gets a note, perhaps a "historical notes" section at the bottom. --Clotho 23:32, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Roger that. Right now the only other issues I can think of that are most important and requiring staff attention are the above Supply Pack Icons and OCH. --Novaster 00:30, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Phew...okay. Let us know if we missed anything important, or didn't explain something in the way the developers want it to be understood. --Novaster 19:32, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Can you please elaborate on what exactly is needed for the Supply Pack Icons and OCH? (I got lost somewhere!) --Clotho 19:55, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Details should be in each subsection of this talk page and signed with a timestamp. Would it be better to put resolved issues in a show/hide? I remember trying to organize my pile of requests here before and it wasn't the best idea :P. Icons are resolved, they just need deletion, OCH is a major issue that many of us are worried about and feel that a subpage (a page able to be protected in full in its own right) would rectify. --Novaster 00:34, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes, using a show/hid for resolved issues is a good idea. --Clotho 19:27, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Showhide

Can we add the option to have Template:Showhide open or closed when the page loads, while remaining closed by default? This would not change anything regarding templates already implemented, and will allow editors to do some interesting noinclude things with sub pages as well as general page organization. This template is understandably protected, so if you could add {{{state|collapsed}}} to the code if you think it's prudent, it would be appreciated. The new code would look like this:

<div style="width: {{{width|60em}}}">
<div class="NavFrame {{{state|collapsed}}}">
  <div style="text-align:left" class="NavHead">{{{1}}}</div>
  <div style="text-align:left" class="NavContent">
{{{content}}}</div></div></div><noinclude>{{documentation}}</noinclude>

This way, editors can put "state=uncollapsed" if they wish. I have chosen the word "state" because I noticed Template:SKWindow2 uses the same, and consistency is nice. Also it makes sense.

Thanks, --Novaster 16:14, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Done! --Clotho 19:26, 20 August 2015 (UTC)