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| − | My goodness, that is really bad! I thought for sure that would work. Would it be prudent to give a warning near the gallery about the visual problems/appearance on the [[Maskeraith (Snarblepup)]] page until sufficient time has passed? --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :[http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Maskeraith_%28Snarblepup%29&diff=207981&oldid=207951 I went ahead and did it] - this should save whatever trouble it might have caused. Should. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:02, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :: Yes, that works, thank you. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 01:15, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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| − | ::: The image seems to have updated itself for most users. Hurray. Sorry that deletion didn't clear the cache issue like I thought it would, so, won't be asking for that again. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 16:55, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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| − | Okay! A lot of sprite visuals have finally been updated to proper file names. A few redirects that nothing links to and files that are out of date and moved etc. should now be fully deleted as the final clean up step. As a result of this project, file names are now consistent for every sprite page, and the infobox has a consistent file name behavior with other infoboxes that portray items that have available tooltip visuals (my opinion of "equipped" for these files is one of OCD/past decisions before we had tooltips and I won't go into it). Much of this has been discussed before and is stored in your archives. This should be the last step! Several images still need updating to the full inspect window size, but they are in the new/consistent file name space. Other users are working on this too, and it's a fun project.
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| − | The following files/pages need to be blasted with a laser to finish the job once and for all, and to remove any confusion future editors might have:
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Drakon Evolved.png]] (moved from before and super thanks! Please delete this redirect if doing so doesn't cause issues)
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Seraphynx Evolved.png]] (moved from before and super thanks! Please delete this redirect if doing so doesn't cause issues)
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Maskeraith Evolved.png]] (moved from before and super thanks! Please delete this redirect if doing so doesn't cause issues)
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Seraphynx (Black Kat) Evolved.png]]
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Drakon (Gun Pup) Evolved.png]] (moved from before and super thanks! Please delete this redirect if doing so doesn't cause issues)
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Maskeraith (Punkin) Evolved.png]] (moved from before and super thanks! Please delete this redirect if doing so doesn't cause issues)
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Maskeraith (Spiralhorn) Evolved.png]]
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Drakon (Divine) Evolved.png]]
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Drakon (Shadow) Evolved.png]]
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Maskeraith (Freeze) Evolved.png]]
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Maskeraith (Snarblepup) Evolved.png]]
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Maskeraith (Volcanic) Evolved.png]]
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Seraphynx (Siamese) Evolved.png]]
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| − | *[[:File:Battle Sprite Seraphynx (Tabby) Evolved.png]]
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| − | --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 16:55, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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| − | Might as well zap this one too: [[:File:Token-Cake slice.png]]. Pew pew! It has a similar flavor to the above. Went through and fixed various links so it should be good to go. Good to go AWAY. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 18:15, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :Done! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 22:12, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :: Hurray! Thanks --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:02, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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| − | Images like [[:File:Rankmission.png|this one]] and several others are protected from general editors. I have a feeling that this was due to some default setting of the account type of the user who uploaded these (where is Equinox btw? Last I saw them was [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/100777#comment-917870 here]), because it seems silly to lock most of these from editors. Gotta love un/checked boxes!
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| − | We'd like to be able to update these, since it's generally preferable to update an image with a new image so file history is organized, even though the wiki has those cache issues. And they're no longer up to date. Then again, there's still images of the beta on the [http://www.spiralknights.com/media.xhtml Screenshot Section of the Main Media Page]. Yeah, we can all see that [[Angelic Helmet (Beta)]].
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| − | It would probably be a lot of work for you...but I think unprotecting any image that isn't a direct [[:File:Button_cc.png|billing thing]] or [[:File:Howlitzer Concept.png|official concept art]] would be a good idea. There's a lot of them. Unless there was a reason? Well, anyway, they're still out of date. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 11:50, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :[[:File:Rankmission.png|this image]] is linked from a preview post on the forum, therefore needs to be protected. If the images need updating, then replace them in the pages rather than uploading new images. If we have them linked to specific posts elsewhere, it makes sense to keep them as is for historical reasons. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 21:35, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
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| − | ::I see...well, good to know. The above supply pack icon moves are becoming a priority for us, I think. The OCH issue is less pressing. Oh, would adding the obsolete tag be prudent? This is something we can't do if the file is protected, and is more work for you. A GM decision for the wiki I suppose. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:55, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
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| − | Can we add the option to have [[:Template:Showhide]] open or closed when the page loads, while remaining closed by default? This would not change anything regarding templates already implemented, and will allow editors to do some interesting noinclude things with sub pages as well as general page organization. This template is understandably protected, so if you could add '''<nowiki>{{{state|collapsed}}}</nowiki>''' to the code if you think it's prudent, it would be appreciated. The new code would look like this:
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| − | This way, editors can put "state=uncollapsed" if they wish. I have chosen the word "state" because I noticed [[:Template:SKWindow2]] uses the same, and consistency is nice. Also it makes sense.
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| − | Thanks, --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 16:14, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :: Done! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 19:26, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | {{showhide|Previous "move icons" request|content=A few of us are working on missions. Wow! How many years has it been since missions were introduced, and we still don't have pages for a lot of 'em! Well, better late than never.
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| − | *[[:File:Equipment- Standard Supply Pack icon.png]] to [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=File:Crafting-Standard_Supply_Pack.png File:Crafting-Standard Supply Pack.png]
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| − | The should show up in the table on the [[Supply Pack]] page when that page is saved after the moves.
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| − | *General: Bad filenames. These items are not equipment. Also, there is an annoying space after the hyphen. Editors should be able to use the proper linking templates. Shame on my 2013 self. Shame.
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| − | *Every other mat has Crafting-blahblah for its name, even though not all materials are used in crafting, and even though they are icons they don't have icon in the name. Just goin with the old norm 'cause it's too much of a hassle to change these to be "right," especially when nobody sees the filename except editors and the ultra curious. Same ocd issue with BlahBlah-Equipped after tooltips were introduced. After moving the files, please delete the originals after all "what links here" are taken care of. I'll post here when that's done.
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| − | *We want to retain file history, because some people like old icons and time stamps - a discussion we've already agreed on :)
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| − | I'll probably ask something about OCH in a bit that involves billing on its own subpage and unprotecting the actual mission page.
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| − | Thanks! --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:13, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
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| − | : I'm getting an internal error qhen trying to move the files. It's possible the move will not be possible. Sorry! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 16:56, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | ::Okay, I shall tackle it best I can with the permissions I have. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 17:35, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | I did what is likely the next best thing to a move. Wiki just needs to tick through its silly cache issues and it will be smooth sailing. The bad filenames are ready for deletion now, nothing links to them. Thanks for trying! Computers can be so feisty sometimes. They definitely have moods. Now to pester about OCH options for the next...future time unit(s).--[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 18:12, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :Organized section better so it's more clear. Fire the deletion laser at the following files:
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| − | Okay! As you can see, several of us are working on getting anything mission related up to date, and [[Operation Crimson Hammer]] (OCH) is a mission - expansion subtype. Editors really need to be able to edit this page, because it is a large part of the game and connected to several things. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can tell, the only reason it's locked to general editors is because it has [[Billing]] information. My solution to this problem:
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| − | Have <nowiki>{{main|Operation Crimson Hammer/Billing}}</nowiki> in an acquisition section somewhere on the OCH page, and let the main OCH page be edited by us (unprotect it).
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| − | --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 11:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
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| − | : That page is linked to our billing documentation therefore it needs to be protected in full, not just part of it. An alternative would be to make the changes in a sandbox, once ready, let me know and I'll update the changes in the page itself. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 17:00, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | ::That's going to be a bit difficult. Editors really need to be able to freely edit a page that's such a large interactive and dynamic part of the game. That makes a lot of hassle to unprotect/protect a page on staff end over time. It's not possible to create [[Operation Crimson Hammer/Billing]], protect that, and then adjust billing documentation to link to that page instead? If not, I'll have to work something out on our end, but it likely won't be as pretty. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 17:34, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | Quoted from email to support (regarding my inability to log in for a day or so, but another employee resolved the ticket so you might not have seen this): ''OCH issue: make a billing page about OCH, named "Operation Crimson Hammer/Billing" and protect it. This page would be a page in its own right and be able to be fully protected. Attempt to make billing documentation link to this "Operation Crimson Hammer/Billing" page instead of the "Operation Crimson Hammer" page. Unprotect the "Operation Crimson Hammer" page indefinitely and make sure it always links to the "Operation Crimson Hammer/Billing" page. This is because OCH is a major part of the game and editors need to be able to edit it freely. This method of billing protection as a subpage with a main expansion mission page should work for future expansion releases. Just imagine having to protect/unprotect OCH and any future expansions every time the game changes and editors need to update aspects of this/those page(s) - awful, right? Other editors seem to agree with me, and they should write a response on your (Clothos') talk page soon. Additional requests/details in the #subsection ("Operation Crimson Hammer") on your (Clotho's) talk page.''
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| − | We have been pushing improvements regarding mission page format and organization on the wiki. I notice that there are several admin-related entities on the [[mission]] page. Before we go through reformatting and merging, are there any specific things editors shouldn't remove, or that staff wishes to emphasize, on the missions page? Of specific concern to me (due to our previous discussion about [[:File:Rankmission.png|this image]]) are subsection linking and images in relation to the forums. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 18:06, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | ::Go ahead and work as you would, just be careful that important historical information gets a note, perhaps a "historical notes" section at the bottom. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 23:32, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :::Roger that. Right now the only other issues I can think of that are most important and requiring staff attention are the above Supply Pack Icons and OCH. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:30, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Phew...okay. Let us know if we missed anything important, or didn't explain something in the way the developers want it to be understood. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 19:32, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :::Can you please elaborate on what exactly is needed for the Supply Pack Icons and OCH? (I got lost somewhere!) --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 19:55, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Details should be in each subsection of this talk page and signed with a timestamp. Would it be better to put resolved issues in a show/hide? I remember trying to organize my pile of requests here before and it wasn't the best idea :P. Icons are resolved, they just need deletion, OCH is a major issue that many of us are worried about and feel that a subpage (a page able to be protected in full in its own right) would rectify. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:34, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :: Yes, using a show/hide for resolved issues is a good idea. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 19:27, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :::Alrighty! Did that. Unresolved issues remain exposed. Regarding this particular issue, "missions": Let us know if we missed anything important on the main [[Mission]] page, or didn't explain something in the way the developers want it to be understood. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:45, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
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| | == Hey! About Official Image == | | == Hey! About Official Image == |
I was Equinox but he seems AFK, Novaster suggest me to ask here. I want to know about the official image's meaning. I want to upload this to the spanish wiki as "SpiralKnights_News_106-big.png". It is allowed?.
Also, to make the same question here, should i re-upload the image as "SpiralKnights_News_106-big.png" here in the english wiki too?. I know you are busy so take ur time, i still have a lot to do in the spanish wiki and this can wait xD. Bye~ --Hikaru 23:12, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
A small request - did some template cleaning and organization. Can't edit the code of Template:GuildInfo. Please add Category:Infobox templates to its <noinclude> section. --Novaster 21:06, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
There is a distinct in-game naming convention for places players can explore, such as "Wolver Den:Statusvariant" and "Lichenous Lair:statusvariant" and so on. We are trying to settle on a name for these things, and so far have Category:Areas. I'd like to use the word "world," as it's more specific than "area" and opens up use of the word "area" for general use (as it should be), but the category was deleted in the past, and it seems to be both a point of confusion for users and a sensitive wording issue with how staff wants their game to be understood based on the turmoil of deletions and edits. Is there a term staff would prefer us to use, now that the game is a lot more settled? Certain areas are "worlds" while others are not, according to this staff edit. English doesn't really have a word for "a consistent geographical phenomenon which may or may not encompass an entire area or similar-themed areas at some point, and we only have access to small parts of the geographical phenomenon, and only sometimes." It's similar to very fast continental drift that used to have country/state borders but may or may not in the future. Heck, maybe "geographical phenomenon" would be best. --Novaster 05:43, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
