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===Categories===
 
  
Howdy, I've done an experiment with the [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Category:Military-Themed Military-Themed category page]. I've put the category tag on all the military-themed accessories in the game. I think it works pretty well, as these acc don't have their own pages, and thusly wouldn't show up in a category search. Would this sort of thing be condoned? If so, I'd love to go through and add theme tags to all the image files of accessories.
 
-[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:09, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 
  
EDIT: oh no I got excited and did it to ancient accessory image files too. [[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 08:13, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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== Its this new? ==
: This is the sort of thing that is best discussed in the [http://forums.spiralknights.com/es/forum/14 Wiki Editors forums], as it's best to have a consensus before making any major change. Whatever the majority agrees upon is fine with me! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 17:17, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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=== Thanks ===
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Hey there~ im wondering... do u guyz change the "upload a file" screen xd? I know u did a maintenance yesterday but everything was the same, then right now suddenly at exactly 5am (california time) the interface for uploading a file changed. It was a delay of the corrections or u guyz implemented it at that precisely moment xd? Im just curious cuz it was so suddenly that it shocked me haha, the red and blue colors surely took my attention --[[User:HikaruFer|<b><font color="#265aa6">Hikaru</font><font color="#238e3b">FER</font></b>]] 12:11, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for getting rid of those ultra-specific category pages, obviously they didn't work out as planned! (Really thanks, not sarcasm). -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 07:11, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
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:Should be back to normal! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] ([[User talk:Clotho|talk]]) 23:48, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
:You're welcome! They were marked for immediate deletion with no comments. Didn't have time to clear everything in the deleted category, however, but will try to continue doing that in the next few days. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 18:30, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
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::Oh it is :O! i didnt mean the other one was bad just that it surprise me xd, made me think "maybe it was like this before and i didnt notice?" haha. Thx for the reply! --[[User:HikaruFer|<b><font color="#265aa6">Hikaru</font><font color="#238e3b">FER</font></b>]] 00:09, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
  
=== Could you look at: ===
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:I've stumbled upon it, too, after the maintenance. I've noticed both the changed upload page and additional links on the left. These things were lost when the wiki software got updated, so it was nice seeing them brought back. The reupload notice from the old upload page should stay, though. There is a problem with reuploading images and people who don't know about it often reupload the same image 3+ times thinking they messed up something when in reality they just have to wait for the wiki to update the image. --[[User:Matusm|Matusm]] ([[User talk:Matusm|talk]]) 14:29, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
If you have the time, can you look at either (or both) of the "[[Template:WeaponInfo]]" and "[[Template:Equipment see also]]" templates? I'm not sure which one would be better to edit for this goal, but if I had to guess, it would be the "see also" one. We're trying to have a link to specific guides based on what item type is on the page - so a Sword (like the [[Sudaruska]]) would link to the [[Swordmaster Guide]] in the "See Also" section. I fiddled around with them but nothing worked exactly like we wanted it to. Sadface. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 16:49, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
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::I agree with Matsum. The one old with the red and blue "signs" isnt bad at all and help ppl remember/know about the cache issue the wiki have; a few days ago i was explaining someone why the image wouldnt show correctly for a few days and they were pretty skeptical haha, i dont blame them, it happen xd. Oh and i saw those "additional links" on the menu too, i was convinced those were there but i forgot about it xd --[[User:HikaruFer|<b><font color="#265aa6">Hikaru</font><font color="#238e3b">FER</font></b>]] 21:09, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
  
P.S. - [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/102232#comment-929656 Here we are on the forums chatting about it] -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 16:52, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
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== Curiosity about wiki issues ==
:Is [[User:Clotho/sandbox_1|this]] what you are looking for? -- [[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 23:33, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
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::Tested it out, but it's not registering the right switch - it's still not "communicating" with the weaponinfo template. Feels like it's getting closer, though. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:13, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
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Hello there again Clotho~ Wanted to ask, i know the wikia have some issues (the biggest one being the cache of uploaded images) but i have noticed Categories and "What links here" having an issue too but i wonder, its this like the image-upload issue that in a few days it will show correctly?. Right now i have only tested the Categories and its been more than a month and the URLs hasnt been added to said categories. I have seen things in categories that when i check the image/link, its been months since the cat was removed but when u enter the cat the url/image its still there, so now, im seeing some problem with "What links here", it doesnt update to recent changes, like, Rocket Puppy's page should show it links from "Monster/All" but it doesnt, i noticed this a few weeks but i wonder if i wait it will show? I think it will not (sadly) but want to know what u know about this.
::: If you want it to interact with the weaponinfo template using the "type" from that template, but at the same time being separate templates, then I can't help - way above my wiki magic tricks :)  Right now it needs its own type to be specified within this template, i.e. <nowiki>{{Equipment see also|type= Foo}}</nowiki>.  That said, how about [[User:Clotho/sandbox_1|this version]]?
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::::Hmm, personally I like it but, the other wiki people probably won't "go for it," since pages have the "See Also" at the bottom in general. It might also lead to too much clutter in a "general info" box. Gotta love those standard formatting issues. It's good to have this option in case the future demands something similar. We'll just link to a general category page for all of the guides (probably - something that has yet to be made), that seemed to be the plan B in the forums. The thought process would be something like "hmm...I was just on a sword page...I should probably...pick the sword guide out of the rest of these guides! Yes!" Great challenge/effort though... Thanks for looking into it! -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 16:56, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
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::::P.S. - Trying out [[:Category:Guides (Player Made)|this Category Page]] (linked to it in the "Equipment See Also" template used on equipment pages), we'll see if people like it! -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 17:21, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
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===Categories: "Category:Redirects from alternate names "===
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*[[:Category:Armor ankle attachment]]: Was created two years ago (May 2018) with a "hidden cat" tag but still doesnt hide the cat like the other categories of slot attachments, plus, it havent added the urls i have marked this past month, and they doesn't show in "What links here" either, but at least the Cat shows in the main page (like [[Splash Sarong]] for example, thats the most recent one i added).
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*[[ShadowTech Blue Down Puffer]]: Created this redirect a month ago and it still doesnt show in the [[:Category:ShadowTech Blue-Themed]], only images, for some reason, some images work and other doesnt? usually the ones created with the cat are the ones that doesnt have problems (or thats what i have seen).
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*[[Recon (MotT)]]: This NPC doesnt show in its categories. I created that page recently.
  
I love this cat tag! Thanks for bringing it back into the light. Anyway, a few things in there are actually named properly in-game (sometimes the "game files" and "in-game names", and even vs. the dev posts ("floral halo"! Oh dear! All is forgiven :P), are not in sync - so going with the in-game term feels the most comfy. I went in and did some fixes. This "prize box project" I'm working on is sure exposing a lot of holes.-[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:22, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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I think the error its being since 2017 approx cuz [[Smitty]] was created in July 2016 and it shows in the cat. Right now thats all the examples i remember. I wanted to use the "what links here" to check which pages have the name of a monster linked and easily see if im missing some entries in "locations" of said monster (as i did with the subgeographys pages) but the Monster template have "type#name" so Rocket Puppy in the monster template makes <code><nowiki>[[Gun Puppy#Rocket Puppy|Rocket Puppy]]</nowiki></code> so everything links to Gun Puppy and its way harded to see if the link mentions a Redhover or a gun puppy, or a rocket puppy for example... i have to open every page and check. When i change the monster template to link directly to monster single names, it sill will not help me since it will not show in "What links here" :(. Dunno if its an unreported issue and maybe i can be solved? Have a nice day! --[[User:HikaruFer|<b><font color="#265aa6">Hikaru</font><font color="#238e3b">FER</font></b>]] 22:08, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
  
P.S - I think this logic works: if there's ever more, for example, "dust bunny tails", then we'll fix the "dust bunny tail" to not have this "alternate name" category, and probably either redirect the "lovely dust bunny tail" to the new "dust bunny tail" page, or delete the individual page entirely (I'm loath to make redirects for color styles of non-unique accessories - people rarely type all that out and boy, the clutter on the category pages!). This happened quickly with "lovely bent vertical vents" and the later released "bent vertical vents" - for that one, I did a redirect...still missing a pic of unattached volcanic. Grrr. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:37, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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== Spam? ==
: Hee, I love those tags too. it's hard to know where to draw the line between adding a redirect or not - just use your best judgment, that usually works! As for the inconsistencies, if there are any 'official' pages that need to be updated to the in-game name, please let me know and I'll take care of it. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 02:14, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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== Usables Project ==
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I edited [[User:Riteshpatil|this]]. Its spam right? I dont know if i should add a delete tag or what to do tbh --[[User:HikaruFer|<b><font color="#265aa6">Hikaru</font><font color="#238e3b">FER</font></b>]] 11:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Gosh, I had a lot of time today! Anyway:
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:Yes, this is spam. Thank you for taking care of this! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] ([[User talk:Clotho|talk]]) 05:56, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
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::Np! If i see something like that again i will edit it and let u know~ --[[User:HikaruFer|<b><font color="#265aa6">Hikaru</font><font color="#238e3b">FER</font></b>]] 06:46, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  
Trying to get pages nice and organized with capital letters and such, so less-than-ideal pages can be deleted properly - I can't edit [[Starter Pack old|This Page]] or [[Deluxe Starter Pack|This Page]] - All they need are capital As for heat amps, and then the bad "Heat amplifier" page can go away forever. (Replaced with "Heat Amplifier."). Usually I find that the wiki hiccups once or twice, then registers the capital letter change - but that could just be something weird with my browser. Is it like this for everyone? If not, I feel a bit silly fiddling around with capital letters. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 05:52, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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'''P.D:''' The system blocked me for a while when i re-logged after midnight. I was about to write an email for support but before send it, i checked again and i was unblocked...
:Done! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 17:51, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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:<code>Your IP adress has been automatically blocked because it was used by another user, who was blocked by '''Clotho'''.
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::''Autoblocked because your IP adress has been recently used by "Riteshpatil"''</code>
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That was part of the error's msg. I dunno why it blocked my IP and said Riteshpatil used it, its because i edited their pages? Anyway im letting u know in case the system decided to block me again haha OTL. --[[User:HikaruFer|<b><font color="#265aa6">Hikaru</font><font color="#238e3b">FER</font></b>]] 08:30, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  
==Missing Promotional Images==
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== Another Spam user ==
official "Icons" (not usable "prize box" icons - examples: [[File:Ancientbox icon.png|38px]], [[File:Colossalbox icon.png|38px]], etc.) for these promotions are missing:
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Not "buy this box via purchase" per-say:
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Hi~ The name of the spam user is [[User:Sohbet|Sohbet]]. I already edited their page to erase the links --[[User:HikaruFer|<b><font color="#265aa6">Hikaru</font><font color="#238e3b">FER</font></b>]] 11:03, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
*anniversary prize box
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*Dark Harvest prize box
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*frosty prize box
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*companion prize box
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These are not your typical...profit-box? haha. Anyway, not sure if these get official icons, as they're not part of billing and so on.
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"Profit Boxes" - promotional image icon thing missing:
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*decoration kit prize box
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*elite trinket
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*gobble snipe box
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*gourmet prize box
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*nemesis prize box (this also needs an Admin wiki page creation in general)
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*obsidian prize box
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*polar prize box
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*winterfest prize boxes
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Oh and, the "blooming,"  "equinox", "katastrophe", "rage", "rose regalia," "Slime," "Splash", and "Surprise" icon things could use that interesting... "protection tag?" Some of the others do, these don't, dunno why, seems odd to me :D. So I thought I'd mention it. The "stormy" one has a different tag, might as well mention that too.
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I see that '''Thalia''' usually posts the promotional pages but, Thalia doesn't have a Talk page yet, so, I didn't know exactly how to post this request, but here it is!
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Hope I didn't miss any.
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I don't know where I get the editing energy from, it just comes and goes.
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-[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 07:14, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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: I'll try to get the missing icons, but it may take a few days. Thanks! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 17:56, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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===Accessories and Lockboxes===
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I went in today and fixed up a few things for accessories - namely ToC issues and a nice acquisition column (was another player's suggestion that I agreed with wholeheartedly). ([http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/102232 "Trivia" vs. "Notes" forum discussion] in there for the ToC stuff). My main worry is the accuracy of some of the Lockbox availabilities for many of the accessories - it would be nice to get confirmation on all [[Lockbox]] drops, if possible. This is a rather large/serious request, and many players would appreciate it (I'm very sure - they're the only boxes we gamble with but don't have an official, complete drop table for). All we know is that the drop table has been changed over time (with [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Release_Notes_2012-04-18 release notes like these]. Thanks! -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:06, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
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===Supply Depot Page===
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Hello, I see that the [[Supply Depot]] page has been protected, so we can't edit it. I get it, it's a very important page! But it's a bit lacking in information regarding the flash sales. I'd love to add a picture and a few other things - I feel like linking to the forum logs ([http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/104602 this] is one of them) for the "flash sales" might be beneficial to players - certainly, having a dedicated log of all sales (and all the items in that sale, with their duration and price) would be great, but it is difficult for us users to accurately and officially track ''everything''. I've suggested that the GMs give us logs, at least after the sales, but have not heard much on this note (desire for a GM-released log came from two thoughts: to prevent various scam techniques, as well as being generally useful). Anyway, could the Supply Depot page be unprotected so we can add clarity to the "flash sales" in the "specials" section? -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 15:04, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
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:Thanks a bunch!  I've added a link to another page, so us editors can update that with information on future flash sales without blocking issues. My edits are done. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:45, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
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::Okay I had to add one more thing. I am very sure I'm done now! -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:46, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
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== Vandal returns ==
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Recently you blocked User:Xmaster10000 from editing. Now [[User:Xmaster100]] is vandalizing pages. I just thought you might like to know. [[User:Jdavis|Jdavis]] 16:41, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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:Thank you! It has been taken care of. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 17:38, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 11:03, 14 June 2020

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Archived discussions can be found here. If you have a suggestion for Spiral Knights, please use the Suggestions Forum. If you need assistance with the game, use the Support Portal.


Its this new?

Hey there~ im wondering... do u guyz change the "upload a file" screen xd? I know u did a maintenance yesterday but everything was the same, then right now suddenly at exactly 5am (california time) the interface for uploading a file changed. It was a delay of the corrections or u guyz implemented it at that precisely moment xd? Im just curious cuz it was so suddenly that it shocked me haha, the red and blue colors surely took my attention --HikaruFER 12:11, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Should be back to normal! --Clotho (talk) 23:48, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Oh it is :O! i didnt mean the other one was bad just that it surprise me xd, made me think "maybe it was like this before and i didnt notice?" haha. Thx for the reply! --HikaruFER 00:09, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
I've stumbled upon it, too, after the maintenance. I've noticed both the changed upload page and additional links on the left. These things were lost when the wiki software got updated, so it was nice seeing them brought back. The reupload notice from the old upload page should stay, though. There is a problem with reuploading images and people who don't know about it often reupload the same image 3+ times thinking they messed up something when in reality they just have to wait for the wiki to update the image. --Matusm (talk) 14:29, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
I agree with Matsum. The one old with the red and blue "signs" isnt bad at all and help ppl remember/know about the cache issue the wiki have; a few days ago i was explaining someone why the image wouldnt show correctly for a few days and they were pretty skeptical haha, i dont blame them, it happen xd. Oh and i saw those "additional links" on the menu too, i was convinced those were there but i forgot about it xd --HikaruFER 21:09, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Curiosity about wiki issues

Hello there again Clotho~ Wanted to ask, i know the wikia have some issues (the biggest one being the cache of uploaded images) but i have noticed Categories and "What links here" having an issue too but i wonder, its this like the image-upload issue that in a few days it will show correctly?. Right now i have only tested the Categories and its been more than a month and the URLs hasnt been added to said categories. I have seen things in categories that when i check the image/link, its been months since the cat was removed but when u enter the cat the url/image its still there, so now, im seeing some problem with "What links here", it doesnt update to recent changes, like, Rocket Puppy's page should show it links from "Monster/All" but it doesnt, i noticed this a few weeks but i wonder if i wait it will show? I think it will not (sadly) but want to know what u know about this.

Examples:

  • Category:Armor ankle attachment: Was created two years ago (May 2018) with a "hidden cat" tag but still doesnt hide the cat like the other categories of slot attachments, plus, it havent added the urls i have marked this past month, and they doesn't show in "What links here" either, but at least the Cat shows in the main page (like Splash Sarong for example, thats the most recent one i added).
  • ShadowTech Blue Down Puffer: Created this redirect a month ago and it still doesnt show in the Category:ShadowTech Blue-Themed, only images, for some reason, some images work and other doesnt? usually the ones created with the cat are the ones that doesnt have problems (or thats what i have seen).
  • Recon (MotT): This NPC doesnt show in its categories. I created that page recently.

I think the error its being since 2017 approx cuz Smitty was created in July 2016 and it shows in the cat. Right now thats all the examples i remember. I wanted to use the "what links here" to check which pages have the name of a monster linked and easily see if im missing some entries in "locations" of said monster (as i did with the subgeographys pages) but the Monster template have "type#name" so Rocket Puppy in the monster template makes [[Gun Puppy#Rocket Puppy|Rocket Puppy]] so everything links to Gun Puppy and its way harded to see if the link mentions a Redhover or a gun puppy, or a rocket puppy for example... i have to open every page and check. When i change the monster template to link directly to monster single names, it sill will not help me since it will not show in "What links here" :(. Dunno if its an unreported issue and maybe i can be solved? Have a nice day! --HikaruFER 22:08, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Spam?

I edited this. Its spam right? I dont know if i should add a delete tag or what to do tbh --HikaruFER 11:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, this is spam. Thank you for taking care of this! --Clotho (talk) 05:56, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Np! If i see something like that again i will edit it and let u know~ --HikaruFER 06:46, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

P.D: The system blocked me for a while when i re-logged after midnight. I was about to write an email for support but before send it, i checked again and i was unblocked...

Your IP adress has been automatically blocked because it was used by another user, who was blocked by Clotho.
Autoblocked because your IP adress has been recently used by "Riteshpatil"

That was part of the error's msg. I dunno why it blocked my IP and said Riteshpatil used it, its because i edited their pages? Anyway im letting u know in case the system decided to block me again haha OTL. --HikaruFER 08:30, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Another Spam user

Hi~ The name of the spam user is Sohbet. I already edited their page to erase the links --HikaruFER 11:03, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

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