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==Icon Fixes==
 
==Icon Fixes==
Catching my breath...
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Went through and "fixed" rarity icons. All that's left is outdated filenames on the [[Supply Depot]] page, which is currently protected, so I can't edit it. Would you mind changing the filenames to the ones used on the wiki now (all examples on [[Rarity]] page)? Or you could unprotect the page (again, haha - like you did so I could link to [[Supply Depot Sale]] stuff). The risk here is that I might not be online when it's unprotected, I suppose.
  
I've gone through and fixed several icons (and typos in redirects) around the wiki. That was...invisible work! I plan on "fixing" perks too, and a few other odds and ends. I wish this mentality were more common:
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Just got fed up with a switch system, but I realize this sort of "reuploading things to better names" activity isn't ideal. There's a lot of inconsistencies on the wiki when it comes to this sort of thing (materials, perks, etc), and well, I've decided that it's not worth anybody's time (certainly not mine) to "fix" this sort of issue by reuploading files to better names, when you can just make an ugly (but functional) switch. There's more reasons than time though:
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:1) the game could give multiple functions to a single entity, as with "buff" effects (pickup items as well as triggered by monsters on each other or battle sprites on knights is just one example) - I just fixed duplicate file issues regarding these today
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:2) the game could change the arsenal classification of an item to be another arsenal classification, potentially rendering filenames inaccurate, and a hassle to "fix" if there's hundreds of them. But nobody really sees filenames except editors, so inaccurate filenames of this specific kind don't matter as long as published page content is clear, right?
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:3) we are at risk of losing easy access to archive data using the "reupload to a better filename to fix" method. I've often used the date an original icon was uploaded to make sense of the order of events. For example, I used the file history of the accessory icons for several of the older Round Shade accessory items to try and discern the relative date Round Shades were first released (not everything has release notes or admin posts), and a few others.
  
:Just because something doesn't have an appearance in-game separate from its icon, doesn't mean it's fine to upload one without "icon" in the filename, otherwise tables can't be uniform and switches get quite silly (I looked at the switch I did for one of the tables, and was just like ALL RIGHT, TIME TO FIX THIS SILLYNESS like a few of us editors did for confetti and boxes).  
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In the future, I'll be sure to just deal with a messy switch that only editors who have to muck around with code have to see. I'll "fix" odds and ends that I see though, like if someone just uploads a file to ads;jkflhasdfjkh.jpg or something like that :)
  
Anyway, I ramble... All that's left is outdated filenames on the [[Supply Depot]] page, which is currently protected, so I can't edit it. Would you mind changing the filenames to the ones used on the wiki now (all examples on [[Rarity]] page)? Or you could unprotect the page (again, haha - like you did so I could link to [[Supply Depot Sale]] stuff). The risk here is that I might not be online when it's unprotected, I suppose.
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should I put the above reasons in a sort of "how to wiki" guide (a few of us are planning on revamping the style guide page to be more up to date), if you think they're prudent/correct?
  
Not gonna look at/fix materials. That's just too many files, the system works fine (making switches for something that consistently inconsistent-with-wiki isn't so bad), and nobody REALLY cares except my inner OCD Devilite and well, I'm only gonna be alive so long on this planet. The same sort of thing bothers me about "equipped" images...the days before tooltip rotations were dark indeed. Nope. Not worth anyone's time to "fix." Nope. Nooooope.
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-[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 14:15, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 
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Thanks,
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-[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 11:08, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
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==Probably-Shouldn't-Be-On-Wiki-Images==
 
==Probably-Shouldn't-Be-On-Wiki-Images==
 
<strike>[http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Copyright_risk&limit=500 Copyright Risk] - created that tag so admins can deal with these in bulk as editors use the tag.</strike> What should be done about these images? I'm 99% sure they're copyrighted. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 15:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 
<strike>[http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Copyright_risk&limit=500 Copyright Risk] - created that tag so admins can deal with these in bulk as editors use the tag.</strike> What should be done about these images? I'm 99% sure they're copyrighted. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 15:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 
:I have just found the '''<nowiki>{{copyvio}}</nowiki>''' tag (which links to this [[:Category:Potential copyright violations|category-that-has-existed-for-forever]]) by chance working on another project. So, using that instead! I'll be working on a "how to wiki guide" pretty soon...so people can know that things like this already exist and not embarrass themselves. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 
:I have just found the '''<nowiki>{{copyvio}}</nowiki>''' tag (which links to this [[:Category:Potential copyright violations|category-that-has-existed-for-forever]]) by chance working on another project. So, using that instead! I'll be working on a "how to wiki guide" pretty soon...so people can know that things like this already exist and not embarrass themselves. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

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Icon Fixes

Went through and "fixed" rarity icons. All that's left is outdated filenames on the Supply Depot page, which is currently protected, so I can't edit it. Would you mind changing the filenames to the ones used on the wiki now (all examples on Rarity page)? Or you could unprotect the page (again, haha - like you did so I could link to Supply Depot Sale stuff). The risk here is that I might not be online when it's unprotected, I suppose.

Just got fed up with a switch system, but I realize this sort of "reuploading things to better names" activity isn't ideal. There's a lot of inconsistencies on the wiki when it comes to this sort of thing (materials, perks, etc), and well, I've decided that it's not worth anybody's time (certainly not mine) to "fix" this sort of issue by reuploading files to better names, when you can just make an ugly (but functional) switch. There's more reasons than time though:

1) the game could give multiple functions to a single entity, as with "buff" effects (pickup items as well as triggered by monsters on each other or battle sprites on knights is just one example) - I just fixed duplicate file issues regarding these today
2) the game could change the arsenal classification of an item to be another arsenal classification, potentially rendering filenames inaccurate, and a hassle to "fix" if there's hundreds of them. But nobody really sees filenames except editors, so inaccurate filenames of this specific kind don't matter as long as published page content is clear, right?
3) we are at risk of losing easy access to archive data using the "reupload to a better filename to fix" method. I've often used the date an original icon was uploaded to make sense of the order of events. For example, I used the file history of the accessory icons for several of the older Round Shade accessory items to try and discern the relative date Round Shades were first released (not everything has release notes or admin posts), and a few others.

In the future, I'll be sure to just deal with a messy switch that only editors who have to muck around with code have to see. I'll "fix" odds and ends that I see though, like if someone just uploads a file to ads;jkflhasdfjkh.jpg or something like that :)

should I put the above reasons in a sort of "how to wiki" guide (a few of us are planning on revamping the style guide page to be more up to date), if you think they're prudent/correct?

-Novaster 14:15, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Probably-Shouldn't-Be-On-Wiki-Images

Copyright Risk - created that tag so admins can deal with these in bulk as editors use the tag. What should be done about these images? I'm 99% sure they're copyrighted. -Novaster 15:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I have just found the {{copyvio}} tag (which links to this category-that-has-existed-for-forever) by chance working on another project. So, using that instead! I'll be working on a "how to wiki guide" pretty soon...so people can know that things like this already exist and not embarrass themselves. -Novaster 00:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
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