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This is from what I recall.  I'm sure about the Tier 3 thing as I encountered a swiftstrike buckler recipe the other day.  Edit/comment away until we come to an agreement & can corrected info on the page. --[[User:Equinox|Equinox]] 21:07, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 
This is from what I recall.  I'm sure about the Tier 3 thing as I encountered a swiftstrike buckler recipe the other day.  Edit/comment away until we come to an agreement & can corrected info on the page. --[[User:Equinox|Equinox]] 21:07, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
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:At tier 2 he will sometimes sell a [[Thwack Hammer]] recipe. But I've never seen him sell any other 1-star recipes beside that on tier 2. --[[User:Alfwyn|Alfwyn]] 22:50, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
  
 
* Tier 1: 1-3 star
 
* Tier 1: 1-3 star
 
* Tier 2: 2-4 star
 
* Tier 2: 2-4 star
 
* Tier 3: 3-5 star
 
* Tier 3: 3-5 star
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== Basil's Changed? ==
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It seems as though Basil now offers a fixed set of items at each mid-point, every day. Just dove three or four times yesterday, his items offered never changed. Different parties each time. --[[User:Crazy10101|Crazy10101]] 10:28, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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==Duplicate Recipes==
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Should it be worth noting he can offer duplicate recipes? I took a screenie of him selling [http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/3888/duplicatemc.png 2 Magic Cloak Recipes] I'm just unsure whether or not it would be considered important...  [[User:ExTribble|ExTribble]] 04:46, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
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:I'm guessing that's a bug and not worth mentioning in the wiki article. --[[User:Equinox|Equinox]] 13:52, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
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::Yeah, noticed it again yesterday.  Same duplicate of the Magic cloaks, so unless I have absurdly unusual luck, it seems to be a possibility only when that recipe pops up.  Considering it's so specific, I agree that there's no need to mention it. [[User:ExTribble|ExTribble]] 02:05, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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:::I've also seen the double Magic Cloak on two occasions. So yeah, it sounds like a bug with that specific recipe. ~[[User:Katmint|<b><font color="red">K</font><font color="orange">a</font><font color="jade">t</font><font color="sky blue">m</font><font color="blue">i</font><font color="purple">n</font><font color="fuchsia">t</font></b>]] 04:02, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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==0 Recipes In Stock==
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It'd be really nice to know the exact conditions required to have the recipes in stock. From what I've heard, it has something to do with what depth you started on. For example, if you join at, say, the terminal itself, every recipe that appears will not be in stock. I'm never quite sure when to bring sufficient crowns. [[User:Dewd|Dewd]] 02:25, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
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::As I know it, you need to have joined no later than two floors above the terminal for Basil to offer his recipes. In tier three, if you join at D22, he will have nothing in stock. But if you join at D21, he will.--[[User:Gammeru|Gammeru]] 03:29, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
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== Basil replaced at subtowns with the Supply Depot ==
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Basil used to be present at each [[Subtown]] location, but not any more. When the Supply Depot was introduced, it replaced Basil at both Subtown locations.
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== List of Basil-exclusive recipes ==
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Just found it a little strange that there's a detailed list of what he carries before missions, but no mention of the recipes available from Basil and Basil alone - after all, these are the main reasons behind "Basil runs" (and why he hasn't been replaced by HoH). Most of these seem like common knowledge among the longer-toothed knights in-game, but I've started compiling some recipes to update the page with. Feel free to add any you know! --[[User:Scribo|Scribo]] 13:57, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
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: It's all in the HoH page.--[[User:Trying|Trying]] 16:44, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 16:44, 7 September 2012

Has Basil been entirely moved from the Clockworks? Or is he hiding in different levels that he used to...--Dwyn 09:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Good question. Back near the end of Preview, I visited Low Gardens and Cravat Hall II. Never saw him there. I haven't been to those levels during OB, though. I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone. Maget 21:35, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

recipe star-level distribution

I've noticed that the more crowns I have on me at the time I first transact with Basil when I find him, the more higher-star-level recipes he seems to have for sale. One time I talked to him (all these cases are on level 12) while holding over 30k crowns, and his stock was mostly 4* recipes, with a small amount of 2* and 3* ones. The next time I was holding around 12k crowns (and had about 12k crowns in buy bids on the energy market), and he had mostly 2* recipes with a smaller number of 3* and 4* recipes. The most recent time, I was holding a bit over 20k crowns and he had about equal numbers of all recipes (six 2*, four 3*, seven 4*).

Perhaps this is just a coincidence, and more trials will show there to be no correlation, but I thought it was worth noting. All three times I was adventuring solo.--Scrotch 01:11, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Two more trials: holding about 18k crowns gave mostly 3* recipes, while holding 8k gave an even distribution (four 2*, three 3*, five 4*).--Scrotch 16:11, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
So... On the 23rd and 24th, I had reached the terminal over 5 times, I was holding over 15k every time I went, hoping to find a 4* recipe. However each time I went, Basil was only selling 2*-3* recipes... DarthLOL 17:33, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Going by these, there seems to be a loose correlation, if any. Perhaps it only modifies the odds of him carrying certain star levls?--Skelatox 23:20, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
I encountered him with a mere 3000 crowns in my pocket, in Tier2, and he was carrying maybe 2 2* recipes, a large amount of 3*, and a VERY large amount of 4* recipes. I was with a group at the time, if that helps. CrashFu
I seriously doubt that it's affected by how many crowns you're carrying. --Equinox 21:07, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Information on Star Levels of Recipes

This is from what I recall. I'm sure about the Tier 3 thing as I encountered a swiftstrike buckler recipe the other day. Edit/comment away until we come to an agreement & can corrected info on the page. --Equinox 21:07, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

At tier 2 he will sometimes sell a Thwack Hammer recipe. But I've never seen him sell any other 1-star recipes beside that on tier 2. --Alfwyn 22:50, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Tier 1: 1-3 star
  • Tier 2: 2-4 star
  • Tier 3: 3-5 star

Basil's Changed?

It seems as though Basil now offers a fixed set of items at each mid-point, every day. Just dove three or four times yesterday, his items offered never changed. Different parties each time. --Crazy10101 10:28, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Duplicate Recipes

Should it be worth noting he can offer duplicate recipes? I took a screenie of him selling 2 Magic Cloak Recipes I'm just unsure whether or not it would be considered important... ExTribble 04:46, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm guessing that's a bug and not worth mentioning in the wiki article. --Equinox 13:52, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, noticed it again yesterday. Same duplicate of the Magic cloaks, so unless I have absurdly unusual luck, it seems to be a possibility only when that recipe pops up. Considering it's so specific, I agree that there's no need to mention it. ExTribble 02:05, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
I've also seen the double Magic Cloak on two occasions. So yeah, it sounds like a bug with that specific recipe. ~Katmint 04:02, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

0 Recipes In Stock

It'd be really nice to know the exact conditions required to have the recipes in stock. From what I've heard, it has something to do with what depth you started on. For example, if you join at, say, the terminal itself, every recipe that appears will not be in stock. I'm never quite sure when to bring sufficient crowns. Dewd 02:25, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

As I know it, you need to have joined no later than two floors above the terminal for Basil to offer his recipes. In tier three, if you join at D22, he will have nothing in stock. But if you join at D21, he will.--Gammeru 03:29, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Basil replaced at subtowns with the Supply Depot

Basil used to be present at each Subtown location, but not any more. When the Supply Depot was introduced, it replaced Basil at both Subtown locations.

List of Basil-exclusive recipes

Just found it a little strange that there's a detailed list of what he carries before missions, but no mention of the recipes available from Basil and Basil alone - after all, these are the main reasons behind "Basil runs" (and why he hasn't been replaced by HoH). Most of these seem like common knowledge among the longer-toothed knights in-game, but I've started compiling some recipes to update the page with. Feel free to add any you know! --Scribo 13:57, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

It's all in the HoH page.--Trying 16:44, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
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