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Please keep edits here limited to things about the wiki that I've done, or that you are very sure I can help with. I am not an employee, just a very overly enthusiastic gamer and wiki editor. All my work is volunteer - and I value every moment :). That being said, I'll be happy to help if I can. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 16:32, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
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I am not an employee, just a very overly enthusiastic gamer and wiki editor. Keep edits here limited to things about the wiki that I've done, or that you are very sure I can help with. All my work is volunteer - and I value every moment :). That being said, I'll be happy to help if I can. My IGN is Novaster, same as my wiki account, so pop me a pm or mail in-game if you want to casually discuss things.
  
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If you have a suggestion for Spiral Knights, please use the [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/forum/7 Suggestions Forum] instead.  If you need assistance with your account, use the links on the [[Support Portal]] to get help.
  
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==Messages Here==
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Ah, that's good to hear. I'm fairly new to this, and, so I appreciate the advice you gave.  
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-[[User:Anschluss|Knightriel]] 12:27, 1/17/2015 (GMT)
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Archived discussions with Novaster can be found [[User talk:Novaster/archive|here]]. 
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== I'm never adorable. ==
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== Vendor List Changes ==
  
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You know this. Just figured I'd do a couple of small-ish changes then go back to being dead. --[[User:Acies|Acies]] 08:39, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
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Should I make changes on the following pages?:
  
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== WeaponInfo for Bombs ==
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Punch and Vise - These don't give actual items but just services
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Did the Bombs, though with your last changes in the Template most "Ability"-Boxes are currently empty. -[[User:Hennils|Hennils]] 22:12, 26.03.2015 (CET)
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:Thanks a bunch, will get right on that. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:53, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
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== Gear Halo stuff ==
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Supply Depot - Not actually a vendor
  
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Which tag did you use? --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 18:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
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Boost, Ursula, Quince, Rudkin - Obsolete
  
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== Wheel Launcher ==
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Also, what type are vials and vitapods? Materials? --[[User:Snarbylord|Snarbylord]] 02:21, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
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I understand your point completly, maybe we should keep them in the monster section but add them in the exploration section too (Firestorm Citadel and Grinchin Assault). I consider that the 'construct-launcher' is the monster and the spiked wheel is the [[exploration]] element (that is why I didnt add Grinchlin Assault into the location of the Wheel Launcher, because only the spiked wheels appear). Don't forget that we will probably see Wheel Launchers again in the incoming new FSC mission! - ''Sir Onox''
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:I'll look into this more deeply tomorrow, or possibly later tonight. Vials are [[pickup]]s, vitapods are [[consumable]]s. Leave obsolete pages alone. Leave Punch and Vise alone, I have something else in mind involving tickets. We can't even edit the Supply Depot page (it is protected because it directly involves the "real money" in-game currency of energy), and it's very different from an NPC vendor, so we would leave it alone anyway. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 03:36, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
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::Alright, thanks. But what type are materials? Tokens?
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:::Materials don't really have a subtype, just leave it blank. Subtype is something we do to help users, it's not really an in-game arsenal-influencing thing. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:24, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
  
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== Exploration Image ==
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==File Uploads==
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[http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:ScenarioRoom-WolverDen.jpg Here] it is, I think. - Altmetal 08/05/15
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About my images: sorry, I just ripped icons from Wayback Machine didn't realise I had to get full images [[User:Edge97|Edge97]]
  
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== Monster Visuals ==
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==APNG images==
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Seems a good idea, specially if we start with dangerous monsters like Almirian Crusaders, Mecha Knights or Deadnaughts, how we should make this? Have you an early concept about how the article should be done? - ''Sir Onox''
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== Crash Site ==
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I have been updating [[The Ancient Generator]] and [[Crossing the Chasm]] with your new interface and looks pretty good, but what about Crash Site? It doesn't have a 'card mission', should I just add the pink-purple-gate like image for the level? - ''Sir Onox'
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Offtop: do you know any way to make images of rare items?
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:I'd look through the files and try to find a visual like this one [https://youtu.be/nfo24SNqTeM?t=72 here]. Or just a picture of the crash site, or the crash pod you see when making a knight. Or I can do that later and add in a size control parameter so the infobox stays reasonable. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 19:45, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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[[User:Rrrrex|Rrrrex]] IGN: The-Worst-Knight
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:Oh! Since it's not exactly a mission, you probably shouldn't use the mission page format - treat it like a geographical area. Basically, if it doesn't have a card thing in the menu...ah, here, [[Moorcroft Manor]] is a good example of a geographical area page. That being said, I was planning on sprucing those up. I'd leave this mini project alone for now and focus on the new stuff. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 19:52, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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:I'm not sure what your point is with APNG. It works with other browsers and it's what we use on this wiki. What do you mean "make images of rare items"? What would be an example? Also, you can sign your posts with <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> to save a lot of time.--[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:33, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
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::The reason APNG is used on the wiki is because it uses the .png extension. The GMs won't add additional file types or change the configuration, so that's what we gotta use if we want something better than GIF. --[[User:Icytea|Icytea]] 06:41, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
  
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== Monster image centering broken ==
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:::I can make GIF with few clicks, really fast. About APNG, i installed Chrome extension, but all i can do is to see all frames of animation.
  
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Your [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Template%3AMonster&diff=193076&oldid=136632 edit] here broke the centering of the images (as well as the "Tier X" text), which looks strange in my opinion as it leaves a lot of blank space on monsters that only have one image. I'd try to fix it myself, but I have no idea what your edit even does and I don't want to accidentally break something else messing with it. ~[[User:Katmint|<b><font color="117FD9">katsy</font></b>]] 23:26, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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:::About rare items, it may be costume accessories from early promos, something that is incredibly hard to find nowadays. I'm ready to work with it, but i'm not ready to search for it. I spent a lot of time in search of proto armor, that's why i don't know how to restore wiki effortlessly.--[[User:Rrrrex|Rrrrex]] 13:26, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
  
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:Actually, same-appearance monster images were not centered in published form before my edit. I kept it like it was (to the left) and I've always thought it was weird. If it had been center, I would have kept it centered. I'll center it now if that's what users want. The tier X text was also unaffected - the published monster templates all show them just fine. The edit merely makes it easier for people to upload images. A discussion about that can be found [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/107692 here].
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::::Focus on things you can do, don't worry about that stuff. there's plenty to do. Also, definitely do NOT do gifs unless there are no other options (the entity is extremely complex and produces an APNG file that is too large. This is very rare). It is explicitly stated in the style guide via an admin post (Equinox) that editors of this wiki should simply avoid gifs, even though they are able to be uploaded. They are a low quality file format. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:39, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
  
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:I am glad someone else wanted it center. That's been driving me nuts for years. All images are centered in the cells now. Though I'm wondering what your issue is with the Tier X text not showing up - it shows up in published pages as well as the raw template. Unless you're talking about some other Tier X text? I assume you mean the text above each image.  
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== About Shroud ==
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About recent edits to the Shroud of the Apocrea page, I just wanted to explain my reasoning on the edit. Since Haven has had the same visual effect during every Shroud event, I removed the reference in the calendar on the most recent one, thinking that it had been mentioned up above. It turns out this wasn't the case on a second look. I won't remove the mention again, but do you think it might be suited better listed under the first event's details section on the calendar? --[[User:Wired Wolf|Wired Wolf]] 6:15, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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:No, because that particular spooky weather effect was for the Dark Harvest Festival (the third instance of DHF occurred simultaneously with the first Apocrea in 2013, confusing many players), and had nothing to do with Apocrea - no Apocrea events had their own spooky weather in Haven until the (current) 5th occurrence. If Apocrea continues to have spooky weather in future occurrences, then we will make a note of that in the bulk page text, and reword the calendar so that it's clear the 5th was the first time the weather was intended for Apocrea. Something like "as of this event, weather is blah." Avoid extrapolation and misleading historical information. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:08, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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::Well, looks like I'm wrong on a few levels. I just remember [http://i.imgur.com/OFB6aCf.png uploading this in 2015]. Maybe my game was just being derpy. I found [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VG4upR0W8c this video] so I'm probably just going insane. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:17, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
  
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::For reference, this line here: '''<nowiki> {{{image1|{{SKCell|'''{{{tier1|Tier 1}}}'''<br>[[Image:Monster-{{{name|Image Needed}}}{{{imgfix|}}}.png|128px]]|center|left|||128px}}}}} </nowiki>''', with focus on this bit:'''<nowiki>|center|left|||128px}}}}}</nowiki>''' is the reason same-appearance monster images were to the left all these years, since it only registered for the first pic, and for same-appearance monsters, there was only ever one picture. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:52, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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*2013: Fog = yes, but it was during DHF.
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*Jun 2014: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIHQmElB7gQ fog = yes]
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*Jan 2015: ??? ([http://i.imgur.com/OFB6aCf.png 28 January 2015 upload]. See history of [[:File:Haven-Event-SotA-TownSquare.png]]. - video error possible)
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*Jun 2016: Fog = yes
  
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:::Thank you, it looks way better now. By the way, [http://i.imgur.com/PiDc9hW.png this] is what it looked like for me before your edit. If it was showing up to the left for you, then the way I did it probably wasn't compatible with your browser. Your centered versions works for both of us, so that's good. ~[[User:Katmint|<b><font color="117FD9">katsy</font></b>]] 00:02, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
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Hypothesis: fog is normal, but I happened to upload a pic during the weird super short event, which might just be the one event that didn't have fog. I'd like more proof before editing the page with conclusive information. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:30, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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::::Hurray-[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:08, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
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==Mission Pages==
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Love the schematic way that it looks now. Really good job as always!
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I'm going to re-done the battle sprites missions with this new format, I dont think to find some trouble editing now, heh. By the way, A lot of icon levels use the 'Crossing the Chasm clockwork level', we can't do innecesary duplicates for every level that use that icon. http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:Gate-Crossing_The_Chasm.png. What do you propose to make it less confusing? - ''Sir Onox''
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Novaster, if you could help me with getting 5 elite orbs, that would be extremely helpful because I have a 4 star hall of heroes and I need 5 more elite orbs to get through it[[User:1462|1462]] 00:19, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
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:Please keep this talk page about wiki matters, as it is on the wiki. You can mail me in-game about playing the game. Sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> so you get a timestamp. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 14:23, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
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If you would love to play games like minecraft with friends then you can make a server on minecraft and use spiral knights to tell me it or you can join my server and I can tell you the server information with spiral knights mail -[[User:1462|1462]] 02:04, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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:We'll see. I'm very tired right now (it's late where I am). My IGN is Novaster like it is here. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:06, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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Well, I like the 'generic' gate icons, seems that there is a lot of work to do reconstructing the old mission articles, specially with the progression part.
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Is it really necessary adding the "no-adventure missions" in the ''Preceded by'' and ''Followed by''? I would prefer if the preceded/followed part skip to the next "adventure mission" instead just a "listen mission". I don't know how to say this correctly, but I think that you understand me with this little trouble. - ''Sir Onox''
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:Yes yes! Im glad that im not the only one who thinks that the list of missions article looks a bit chaotic now. Maybe the "no-adventure missions" deserve his own article too, but yup, I agree that people are interested in the SK lore so maybe we should do those kind of missions too. Tell me when you finish the changes for the missions structure, it is very tedious re-editing the old missions all of time x_x - ''Sir Onox''
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::Huh. I thought I updated every page that used the missioninfo template with the changes. Did I miss something? -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 09:46, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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That reply you gave me really hurt my feelings, i wasnt even begging, all i did was say that i need 5 elite orbs, plus i dont need them anymore so please unignore me, that reply was for no reason, so yeah, think before you reply your in-game mails
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That was you? Oh boy. First off, introduce yourself. That was just another beggar talking, no clue at all that it was you from the wiki. But that ultimately doesn't matter: Asking me, or anyone, for money of any kind (8 elite orbs, or, 5, as you say now) is wildly inappropriate, unless you or someone you care about would die without it. It doesn't matter that you don't need them anymore, you're just going to ask for something else. ''think before your reply you in-game mails'' - I auto-ignore beggars after years of trying to convince every beggar I've seen to not beg, with a 100% failure rate. It's pretty simple. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 05:17, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
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Ok, im very sorry about that, i wont ever ask you for something i need, not even if i need the ternal orbs for my 5 star hall of heroes coming with my next sub tank, i can get them on my own, i get 3 free eternal orbs before my next hall of heroes anyway
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Latest revision as of 20:30, 7 June 2016

I am not an employee, just a very overly enthusiastic gamer and wiki editor. Keep edits here limited to things about the wiki that I've done, or that you are very sure I can help with. All my work is volunteer - and I value every moment :). That being said, I'll be happy to help if I can. My IGN is Novaster, same as my wiki account, so pop me a pm or mail in-game if you want to casually discuss things.

If you have a suggestion for Spiral Knights, please use the Suggestions Forum instead. If you need assistance with your account, use the links on the Support Portal to get help.

Follow format established for wiki use. Add new messages to the bottom under a new ===TITLE=== section for new topics, or continue a discussion under a relevant topic. Sign your posts with --~~~~.

Archived discussions with Novaster can be found here.

Vendor List Changes

Should I make changes on the following pages?:

Punch and Vise - These don't give actual items but just services

Supply Depot - Not actually a vendor

Boost, Ursula, Quince, Rudkin - Obsolete

Also, what type are vials and vitapods? Materials? --Snarbylord 02:21, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I'll look into this more deeply tomorrow, or possibly later tonight. Vials are pickups, vitapods are consumables. Leave obsolete pages alone. Leave Punch and Vise alone, I have something else in mind involving tickets. We can't even edit the Supply Depot page (it is protected because it directly involves the "real money" in-game currency of energy), and it's very different from an NPC vendor, so we would leave it alone anyway. --Novaster 03:36, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. But what type are materials? Tokens?
Materials don't really have a subtype, just leave it blank. Subtype is something we do to help users, it's not really an in-game arsenal-influencing thing. --Novaster 20:24, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

File Uploads

About my images: sorry, I just ripped icons from Wayback Machine didn't realise I had to get full images Edge97

APNG images

APNG works only with Firefox and doesn't have enough support by software Offtop: do you know any way to make images of rare items? Rrrrex IGN: The-Worst-Knight

I'm not sure what your point is with APNG. It works with other browsers and it's what we use on this wiki. What do you mean "make images of rare items"? What would be an example? Also, you can sign your posts with --~~~~ to save a lot of time.--Novaster 02:33, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
The reason APNG is used on the wiki is because it uses the .png extension. The GMs won't add additional file types or change the configuration, so that's what we gotta use if we want something better than GIF. --Icytea 06:41, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I can make GIF with few clicks, really fast. About APNG, i installed Chrome extension, but all i can do is to see all frames of animation.
About rare items, it may be costume accessories from early promos, something that is incredibly hard to find nowadays. I'm ready to work with it, but i'm not ready to search for it. I spent a lot of time in search of proto armor, that's why i don't know how to restore wiki effortlessly.--Rrrrex 13:26, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Focus on things you can do, don't worry about that stuff. there's plenty to do. Also, definitely do NOT do gifs unless there are no other options (the entity is extremely complex and produces an APNG file that is too large. This is very rare). It is explicitly stated in the style guide via an admin post (Equinox) that editors of this wiki should simply avoid gifs, even though they are able to be uploaded. They are a low quality file format. --Novaster 02:39, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

About Shroud

About recent edits to the Shroud of the Apocrea page, I just wanted to explain my reasoning on the edit. Since Haven has had the same visual effect during every Shroud event, I removed the reference in the calendar on the most recent one, thinking that it had been mentioned up above. It turns out this wasn't the case on a second look. I won't remove the mention again, but do you think it might be suited better listed under the first event's details section on the calendar? --Wired Wolf 6:15, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

No, because that particular spooky weather effect was for the Dark Harvest Festival (the third instance of DHF occurred simultaneously with the first Apocrea in 2013, confusing many players), and had nothing to do with Apocrea - no Apocrea events had their own spooky weather in Haven until the (current) 5th occurrence. If Apocrea continues to have spooky weather in future occurrences, then we will make a note of that in the bulk page text, and reword the calendar so that it's clear the 5th was the first time the weather was intended for Apocrea. Something like "as of this event, weather is blah." Avoid extrapolation and misleading historical information. --Novaster 20:08, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Well, looks like I'm wrong on a few levels. I just remember uploading this in 2015. Maybe my game was just being derpy. I found this video so I'm probably just going insane. --Novaster 20:17, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Here we go:

Hypothesis: fog is normal, but I happened to upload a pic during the weird super short event, which might just be the one event that didn't have fog. I'd like more proof before editing the page with conclusive information. --Novaster 20:30, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

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