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==Greetings==
 
==Greetings==
 
Hello, it's good you are practicing in the sandbox, but please do not put inaccurate information onto the wiki. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:01, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 
Hello, it's good you are practicing in the sandbox, but please do not put inaccurate information onto the wiki. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:01, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
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==User Page==
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I'm also going to have to move your user page. User pages do not belong in the mainspace. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:02, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
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:Sorry didn't know that {{unsigned|1462}}
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::And done! It is helpful to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. There's also a button for that in the edit window, second from the left. There's a lot to learn about wiki editing - as long as you have good intent, mistakes will be fixed and we will be happy to have you. Have fun! -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:06, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
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:::Thanks for appreciating me to join, and I'm gonna make a few mistakes for awhile because I'm a new wiki editor (since I use mobile I can't post on the forums because mobile devices can't run spiral knights) -{{unsigned|1462}}
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==Apocrean Harvester Edit==
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I am curious about [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Apocrean_Harvester&diff=203704&oldid=191722 your edit here]. Where do you get the idea/data of 1-2 minutes? If you could reply [[Talk:Apocrean Harvester|here]] that would be cool. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:21, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
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==Edits==
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Pay special attention to page format. Don't add so much space between sections - in fact, only one line is needed. You also should connect and provide proof of data whenever possible. For examples I have fixed your edits on the tinkinzar page. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 03:05, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
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:Good start today. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 04:28, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
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[http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Roarmulus_twins&oldid=203741 I see you are trying to do redirects]. That was a good one, but there's a better way to do these - a detailed list of what to redirect, and how to tag them, can be found [[SpiralKnights:Redirect|here]]. You can redirect terms to specific sections in articles too, by using <nowiki> #REDIRECT [[Article#NAME OF SECTION OR ANCHOR]].</nowiki> [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Shadow_Bolted_Vee&action=edit Here] is an example in action. There are plenty of missing redirects, and we make them as we encounter the need for them, otherwise the chore would be a lot of work for something that might not be that useful.
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You can also skim over [[SpiralKnights:Style guide|the style guide]], available under the search bar in the navigation panel, for more "how to do things". -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 18:15, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
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~~When my sandbox thing took me to an empty page, I made a link (or whatever it is) to the actual roarmulus twins~~
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~~Oh and by the way I was being useful with the herex page by doing another line saying he is a boss fight in [[shadowplay]]~~
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== elite orbs need ==
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Novaster, if you could help me with getting 5 elite orbs, that would be extremely helpful because I have a 4 star hall of heroes and I need 5 more elite orbs to get through it[[User:1462|1462]] 02:16, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
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:Please keep this talk page about wiki matters, as it is on the wiki. You can mail me in-game about playing the game. Sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> so you get a timestamp. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 14:25, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
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==Solnar==
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Please do not create wiki articles for ideas. This wiki is about giving players official information about the game. Conjecture, opinion, and nonexistent entities do not belong here. Feel free to suggest things on the [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/forum/7 suggestion forum]. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:27, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
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~~sorry didn't know I will get rid of it~~
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:I put the delete tag on it. Please sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Just put those four squiggles after your post. Only use that for talk pages, btw. Please practice now. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:36, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
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Is there anyway to make a private page?[[User:1462|1462]] 02:15, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
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:Please sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Then I will tell you how to do that. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:07, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
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::Edit [[User:1462]], or make a page like [[User:1462/Sandbox]] -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:22, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
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This is confusing me, what should I put?[[User:1462|1462]] 02:23, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
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:What should you put? Anything you'd want to put on a private page that isn't offensive, game-spoilery, or other ToS breaking stuff. That's what you asked for right? -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 03:32, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
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==Redirects==
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You should only make redirects as needed, never when something exists already. "A New Threat" is a mission and should not be redirected to Herex. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:05, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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Whoops, I didn't know where it should go because A new threat has no page -[[User:1462|1462]] 00:43, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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Again, don't make redirects like that. "Here" is not needed nor does it make consistent sense. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:43, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
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Then how did you make here go to apocrean harvester history?
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--[[User:1462|1462]] 11:48, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
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It's a neat trick that helps editors look cool. But it's really there to help navigate directly around disambiguation issues. A string such as this:
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<nowiki>[[A New Threat|here]]</nowiki> will work like this: [[A New Threat|here]].
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The "<nowiki>|</nowiki>" is on the same key as the <nowiki>\</nowiki> key on most keyboards. It's conveniently to the right of the other two brackets used for linking.
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While learning editing, it helps to view the edit field of pages to see the code other editors might be using. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 12:34, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
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:That works for internal pages that exist. To link externally, like to the forums, use this instead:
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:<nowiki>[http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/109788 Admin Post for Extraordinary Prize Box]</nowiki> will produce [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/109788 Admin Post for Extraordinary Prize Box]. It doesn't use "<nowiki>|</nowiki>", just a space, and a single bracket on either side, instead of two. Links with "=" symbols in the address can sometimes make things confusing for code so watch out for those. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 12:40, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
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It would be a lot smarter and better to fix edit entries (spelling, capitals) instead of generating redirects. That helps you learn to wiki edit faster too. Try to remember to tag your redirects with a tag from [[SpiralKnights:Redirect|the redirect list]]. Redirects are supposed to facilitate browsing navigation, not editor mistakes. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 13:03, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
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:The capital letter one you did for the katnip pouch was fine. Just food for thought. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 13:04, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
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==A New Threat==
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I was being as useful as I could by adding some info to the A New Threat page
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-[[User:1462|1462]] 00:57, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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:Except you didn't add info, you just redirected it. <<< old edit. Woops. Don't do that. We have a specific mission page format (old or new) but not one for dialogue yet - so just leave it alone for now. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:19, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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::For clarity, I did see the new edits - hence mentioning page format. It's not time well spent. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:21, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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::There are examples of this format in [[Shadowplay]] and [[March of the Tortodrones (Mission)|March of the Tortodrones]], and a few others. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:27, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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The reason I didn't do the format is because I didn't know how to to mission page format
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-[[User:1462|1462]] 01:31, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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:::okay, just leave the page alone then. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:40, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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Wow I put a format but it was deleted
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-[[User:1462|1462]] 01:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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:Yes, I blanked it because it was too buggy and it's best to start from scratch. Please stick to practicing and/or doing what you know, otherwise you just do work that wastes your time, and that generates work for others. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:45, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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It was a bit of work for me alone so I was like ''hmm what to what to do, maybe I will just do as much of the format as I can''
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-[[User:1462|1462]] 01:47, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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:Exactly. Don't do that. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:48, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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And like I said, I'm still a bit new, so just don't be to mad or depressed with my mistakes since I joined like 20 days ago I'm still a bit new
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-[[User:1462|1462]] 01:50, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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And from now on I'm testing with the sandbox before posting
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-[[User:1462|1462]] 01:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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:Not mad or depressed. Doing things in the sandbox is great. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:54, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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::Whew. That was a lot of stuff. Mission pages are pretty advanced editor work, since they draw on a lot of different skills, including knowing the game, how templates work, how to crop images, and how to format pages/filenames consistently. Usually more than one editor helps work with a mission page because of all the different stuff it involves (like [[User:Onox792|Onox]] likes to do monsters etc.) I'd give it a little while before tackling one. I hope to see you doing these like they're no problem eventually, so yeah, keep playing in the sandbox :). About minecraft, I'll play if I have time, it's been a while since I played with the intent to build/survive. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 16:47, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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Tomorrow I will use spiral knights to mail you when I'm on minecraft and that mission page is great
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--[[User:1462|1462]] 00:32, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
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how did you have rank 10-3 in the picture of the rainy garrison?
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--[[User:1462|1462]] 00:32, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
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:You can repeat missions. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:34, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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== a test ==
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This is a test, please do not edit this
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Sand {{unsigned|1462}}
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== a little question ==
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Novaster could you tell me how to make words colored?
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--[[User:1462|1462]] 14:13, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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:I'm hesitant to do that. You really want to avoid doing that on a wiki. What are you going to use it for? -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:27, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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Making rainbows in the sandbox
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--[[User:1462|1462]] 00:03, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
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Already found out how to color letters
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-[[user:1462|1462]]
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==Ancient Edits==
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[http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Ninjadrill&oldid=205145 Please don't comment on the activities of others that are in the distant past] - you've got to check the time stamp (partially why I harp on you so much to sign things. You can also check edit history and user contributions). [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Special:Contributions/Ninjadrill Ninjadrill] has not made an edit since 2013. What you're doing is called "[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thread_necromancy necromancy]" and is not okay on wikis or most forum threads around the world. If the same issue comes up again in the future, it is more appropriate to bring the topic up again as its own issue with source materials, since it likely has issues with current context, not the past, especially for a game wiki that's about a game that updates. You also want to check the activity of editors you ask for help - [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Special:Contributions/TheTric TheTric] was most recently active in 2013 and only made a single edit in 2014. It's now halfway through 2015. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:15, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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==A Serious Talk==
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This is disappointing. But I fear you are taking liberties with my kindness. We always need more editors, but overall, you seem to want to treat the wiki like a toy, not actually help it.
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You are officially doing more harm than good. I'm going to have to stop helping you, and ask you to limit your "contributions" to the wiki to requests, for various reasons:
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*1) you are a beggar. This likely means you are a new player, and therefore you don't have a lot of know-how about the game, and therefore are very unlikely to be able to healthily contribute to a growing wiki. I'm not saying it's impossible, but your constant edits on talk pages are a testament to this conclusion.
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*2) [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Talk:Sleep&oldid=205211 this] is direct etiquette breaking after being explicitly told not to.
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*3) [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=User_talk:TheTric&oldid=205204 this] looks like harassment and is completely pointless, again, this guy hasn't made edits since 2014. I told you to stop doing that, and yet you continue.
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*2) [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Clotho&oldid=205162 this] is a waste of OOO employee time. I don't speak for them, but they do have to archive their talk pages, and look through every relevant post, I'm sure they don't appreciate this sort of thing, because I wouldn't.
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*4) [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:Icon_status_curse.png this] is sabotage. I have a feeling you only reverted because the image refused to update properly for you.
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*5) Your recent edits indicate you've decided to stop listening to advice.
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*6) Several other frustrations.
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In conclusion, take a break from editing the wiki anywhere but your sandbox, your talk page, your user page, and my talk page, and learn to use the preview button. Other editors and I have cleaned up after you, repeatedly. Up till today, I've been perfectly willing to help you, but this nonsense is just too much and is blatant disregard for editor time. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 05:40, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
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Well look, im not a new player, i did not know that was begging and i will fix that thing for the tric, plus im defender elite and ive only done a little bit of return of ur so i dont know everything about the game, just alot (excluding prestige missions)
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--[[User:1462|1462]] 11:51, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
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:That's not really the point. Please abstain from further edits in the mainspace (or other users' pages) while support looks at this issue. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 11:54, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
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Yeah, dont do the above things he just told you --[[User:4675|4675]] 00:34, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
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==User==
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Are you User:4675‎? -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:35, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
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:What you are doing is extremely inappropriate. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:40, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
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}}
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==Nowiki==
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You have to close things, otherwise things get crazy. '''<nowiki><nowiki></nowiki>''' should always be closed by '''<nowiki></nowiki></nowiki>'''. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 17:07, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
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:I have done this for you. Be very careful using stuff like that. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 17:12, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
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:I need my user pages center thing correctly closed so my closing does not show -[[user:1462|1462]]
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::Try using <nowiki><center>CONTENT</center></nowiki>. It should do something like this:
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<center>This is text in the center of the page.</center>
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Also, if you could sign your posts right after the line of text (instead of under it) that would be great. It's not that important. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:10, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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It worked! Thanks for the advice, i sign under the posts often but i occasionally do it after the line of text -[[User:1462|1462]] 00:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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:just like above ^^
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-[[User:1462|1462]] 00:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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Now how does the header template work? -[[user:1462|1462]]
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==Status Icons==
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Oh and my skill is adding status icons however im not to good on templates that require quite a bit of work instead of a single string like <nowiki>{{stub}}</nowiki> (I don't really like resizing though) --[[User:1462|1462]] 01:09, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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:what? -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:32, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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Which part do you not understand? -[[User:1462|1462]] 01:34, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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:The part where it's a "skill" and that all I've seen you do is spam it inappropriately as well as upload an irrelevant file to established filespace for curse. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:36, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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I do a good job at putting one in by editing is the skill part, dunno much on how I could explain my love of the curse status icon or anything else about it --[[User:1462|1462]] 01:39, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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:That is not appropriate for a wiki. Just because you can slap an image onto a page does not make it a "skill" or a "good job." Resizing is extremely important too. I really don't understand why you've said what you did, it's quite worrisome. I mean most of it has led to the very real, actual warnings you've received from game staff. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:41, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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==Contacting Me==
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Please stop contacting me. I do not have time to babysit. The only reason I contact you now is to deal with mistakes and damage you've done. I tried to prevent behavior that would lead to the warnings you got, but this obviously failed, and you even made an alt account to do the exact things you were told not to do after you got a warning from staff. So I absolutely do not want to spend any more time here. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 09:37, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
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==Categories==
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Do not create categories for personal user use that contain little to no information pertaining to content in the mainspace. You can just do whatever you were doing with "what is known" on your user page, or even with a pencil and paper. Categories are wiki-wide and meant to be encompassing and interlinking - hence "category." Read about category usage [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Category here]. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:26, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
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==Giving Warnings==
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Look, I know you're trying to help. Fixing typos and such is fine and great, but going around "warning" people (which you've done a few times) in this context is not appropriate. What users call "vandalism" on their own personal pages can differ drastically from what the wiki actually considers to be serious vandalism. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism Wikipedia's page on edit vandalism] should help. In no way does someone removing/adding themselves from a guild list "compromise the integrity of our wiki." Whatever is going on in that guild with that guild's people is none of our business - you can alert staff based on what you see in the history/edit coments, sure, but don't stick your nose in and give "warnings". If users have problems, they can can contact staff too. For all you know it could be an elaborate joke they are playing on themselves. Report and move on. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 12:31, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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:Don't edit/create user pages (a user page is a page that is very different than their talk page) unless it is by request, or is in clear violation of wiki protocol/spiral knights Terms of Service. You should edit them if they are using duplicate files (people often upload icons repeatedly, and that's not good) or if there is a wikiwide change to file naming, interlinking, and so on. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:31, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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Ok then, i just made an empty page because i needed to know how to access another users contribs-[[User:1462|1462]] 22:38, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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:Oh, I see. That makes sense but there is a better way - either find another user's contribs and change the name in the URL, or click history on a page that user has edited and click "contribs" next to their name. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:02, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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== Warning ==
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This is a notice that we consider some of your edits to be vandalism. This means you're adding nonsense to pages, duplicating existing content, removing useful content, breaking cosmetic elements of pages, or otherwise vandalizing the SK Wiki. If you would like to experiment, please use the [[sandbox]]. Further infractions may lead to a [[SpiralKnights:Blocking_policy|block]] from our wiki. Thank you. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 21:36, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
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== vandalism attempt  ==
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Regarding your post on [[User_talk:Clotho#vandalism_attempt|my talk page]]: no, you should not issue warnings. If something happens that requires the attention of an administrator please report it in game via petition or on my talk page. Thank you. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 23:34, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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Yeah novaster already let me know -[[User:1462|1462]] 00:04, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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And plus, i did do that because i saw [[user:katmint|katmint]] do it <font color =ff003>-[[user:1462|kian-slime-lord]]

Latest revision as of 00:37, 15 June 2015

Nowiki

You have to close things, otherwise things get crazy. <nowiki> should always be closed by </nowiki>. -Novaster 17:07, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

I have done this for you. Be very careful using stuff like that. -Novaster 17:12, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
I need my user pages center thing correctly closed so my closing does not show -1462
Try using <center>CONTENT</center>. It should do something like this:
This is text in the center of the page.


Also, if you could sign your posts right after the line of text (instead of under it) that would be great. It's not that important. --Novaster 00:10, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

It worked! Thanks for the advice, i sign under the posts often but i occasionally do it after the line of text -1462 00:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

just like above ^^

-1462 00:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Now how does the header template work? -1462

Status Icons

Oh and my skill is adding status icons however im not to good on templates that require quite a bit of work instead of a single string like {{stub}} (I don't really like resizing though) --1462 01:09, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

what? -Novaster 01:32, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Which part do you not understand? -1462 01:34, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

The part where it's a "skill" and that all I've seen you do is spam it inappropriately as well as upload an irrelevant file to established filespace for curse. -Novaster 01:36, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I do a good job at putting one in by editing is the skill part, dunno much on how I could explain my love of the curse status icon or anything else about it --1462 01:39, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

That is not appropriate for a wiki. Just because you can slap an image onto a page does not make it a "skill" or a "good job." Resizing is extremely important too. I really don't understand why you've said what you did, it's quite worrisome. I mean most of it has led to the very real, actual warnings you've received from game staff. -Novaster 01:41, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Contacting Me

Please stop contacting me. I do not have time to babysit. The only reason I contact you now is to deal with mistakes and damage you've done. I tried to prevent behavior that would lead to the warnings you got, but this obviously failed, and you even made an alt account to do the exact things you were told not to do after you got a warning from staff. So I absolutely do not want to spend any more time here. -Novaster 09:37, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Categories

Do not create categories for personal user use that contain little to no information pertaining to content in the mainspace. You can just do whatever you were doing with "what is known" on your user page, or even with a pencil and paper. Categories are wiki-wide and meant to be encompassing and interlinking - hence "category." Read about category usage here. -Novaster 21:26, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Giving Warnings

Look, I know you're trying to help. Fixing typos and such is fine and great, but going around "warning" people (which you've done a few times) in this context is not appropriate. What users call "vandalism" on their own personal pages can differ drastically from what the wiki actually considers to be serious vandalism. Wikipedia's page on edit vandalism should help. In no way does someone removing/adding themselves from a guild list "compromise the integrity of our wiki." Whatever is going on in that guild with that guild's people is none of our business - you can alert staff based on what you see in the history/edit coments, sure, but don't stick your nose in and give "warnings". If users have problems, they can can contact staff too. For all you know it could be an elaborate joke they are playing on themselves. Report and move on. --Novaster 12:31, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Don't edit/create user pages (a user page is a page that is very different than their talk page) unless it is by request, or is in clear violation of wiki protocol/spiral knights Terms of Service. You should edit them if they are using duplicate files (people often upload icons repeatedly, and that's not good) or if there is a wikiwide change to file naming, interlinking, and so on. --Novaster 22:31, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Ok then, i just made an empty page because i needed to know how to access another users contribs-1462 22:38, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I see. That makes sense but there is a better way - either find another user's contribs and change the name in the URL, or click history on a page that user has edited and click "contribs" next to their name. --Novaster 00:02, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Warning

This is a notice that we consider some of your edits to be vandalism. This means you're adding nonsense to pages, duplicating existing content, removing useful content, breaking cosmetic elements of pages, or otherwise vandalizing the SK Wiki. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Further infractions may lead to a block from our wiki. Thank you. --Clotho 21:36, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

vandalism attempt

Regarding your post on my talk page: no, you should not issue warnings. If something happens that requires the attention of an administrator please report it in game via petition or on my talk page. Thank you. --Clotho 23:34, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Yeah novaster already let me know -1462 00:04, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

And plus, i did do that because i saw katmint do it -kian-slime-lord

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