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+ | ===A Big Project=== | ||
+ | Hello, as you can see from a ton of sandbox edits lately, we're trying to build a thing! This thing could be pretty major, so I think it would be smart to ask for staff opinion(s). | ||
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+ | It's a list that can sort things via name, damage or defense type, resistances, abilities, penalties, and star, and so on, depending on the type of item. | ||
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+ | I want to make this because a lot of players seem to have trouble finding certain item types and comparing items. After several months of this on the bottom of my "things I could try to do for the wiki in my spare time of which I have too much" I decided to get goin on it. | ||
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+ | Naturally, I went to the [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/105837 forums] to get more opinions. | ||
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+ | So we've a lot of us have been putting lots of thought into this, and people seem to like the idea in general, but to sum up the forum discussion, we're not having an efficient time deciding on format. | ||
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+ | Some opinion(s) on something this large from staff would be great, and, smart to get, yeah? | ||
+ | -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:10, 7 November 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :Oh, also, can we get confirmation about the order of release for items? I've checked [[release/all]] but it doesn't mention everything :)/ -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:19, 7 November 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::The wiki is a community project and in general we rely on the consensus of the player community for such decisions, unless it's something that goes against the style guide/policy. As for release, I'm afraid I don't have a way to find that information easily and sending a query to the developers is out of the question. However, I can take a look and see what I can find. Which items are the ones that need fact-checking? --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 18:23, 14 November 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :::Not sure yet, we've not tried to make all tables (since we're changing so much, it would be silly to do that work and have to change that too) - when we do, I'll post here. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 19:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::::Update: the armor lists are filled in, namewise - in what we believe is the DoR order. Verification would be nice once we get them all onto the same page :D -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:19, 9 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ==Images, Animation, and Mouse== | ||
+ | So I had a thought - would it be at all possible to have any APNGs we upload to the wiki be frozen on the first frame - only animating if a user hovers their mouse over the image? I've seen this before around the intranetz but IDK how we would (or if we could) go about it on the wiki. Just a thought! Would be nice for new players wanting to get a good look at an item, but otherwise be un-distracted by movement on the page while they look at other things. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 07:58, 15 November 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :This looks like a topic for discussion for the [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/forum/14 wiki editors] forums. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 18:28, 16 November 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::[http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/106171 Oki doki]. If you're allowed to give staff opinion, what would be your opinion in general ;P? -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:03, 16 November 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :::My suggestion would be to keep things as simple as possible. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 17:12, 25 November 2014 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ==Tabber== | ||
+ | {{showhide|initial inquiry about tabber|content=Oh look, Nova is doing weird things on the wiki again! | ||
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+ | So I've been trying to make a nice...thing...that mimics a few in-game interfaces. Basically it's a tab box that: | ||
+ | *doesn't link to other pages unless specified, a self-contained thing | ||
+ | *provides a great way to organize things | ||
+ | *and blahblah | ||
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+ | I poked around on our wiki and couldn't find anything anywhere that behaves like this. | ||
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+ | I poked around on MediaWiki, and they have a "[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Tabber tabber]" extension. Do we have this? I tried making a template but it didn't quite work, wondering if I'm just not plugging something in correctly. If we don't have this extension, would it be possible to get it? Since we're powered by MediaWiki here and all that (I have...no idea...how these things work :D...magic?) | ||
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+ | So I spent some time messing around last night trying to incorporate show/hide, and the sheer pathetic level of my efforts made me laugh. | ||
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+ | [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Template:Help%26Documentation-GuildHall relevant derpy template 1] | ||
+ | [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Template:Help%26Documentation-GuildHall/start relevant derpy template 2] | ||
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+ | I think it's clear what I'm trying to do? If not, I'll try to elaborate more. I'm talking with some friends about how to do this, and none of 'em seem to have a clue how to do it. | ||
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+ | EDIT: [[File:templaterequest_tabber.png]] | ||
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+ | Thanks for reading! -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 14:51, 22 November 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :OH an optional scrollbar parameter would be ideal, if possible. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 16:37, 22 November 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::Talked with some friends, and they said something about old MediaWiki not having the capacity for new MediaWiki things. That makes me sad D:. Messed around with it some more, and, well, the way that it's NOT working is making me laugh at least. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:26, 25 November 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :::We don't ave those extensions and it's likely they won't be implemented any time soon. Sorry! --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 17:14, 25 November 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | :I showed an image I made of my "tabber dream" to several players ([http://imgur.com/uXaoqiZ image here]), and the feedback has been almost entirely positive - so I decided to make something as close to it as I could with the current wiki. Calling it... '''Item Cards''' project! ("card" since, well, it kinda looks like a cute ID card for items, doesn't it? hehe). Anyway, it's been kinda...difficult, so I've spawned several templates and deleted them quickly, this sort of thing is not going to hurt the wiki or anything like that is it? I wish I could delete pages out myself (I like to clean up my messes), but all I can do is the <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> tag, which makes more work for you. Ah well. I've just noticed a lot of inconsistencies with page format around the wiki - understandable of course, with so many contributors. If I can manage to make this Card Template intuitive, flexible-yet-rigid (rigid for consistencies, flexible for experienced and inexperienced users alike), I think we'll have a very clean wiki. [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/106676 Here] is the forum thread - so we can track feedback and such. I'll update it with in-game feedback too. | ||
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+ | :TL;DR: Sorry about all the junk templates and trashed pages I generate in this process. I am inspired. | ||
+ | :-[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:43, 7 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ==Icon for Crafting== | ||
+ | The main wiki page has a silly icon for crafting...not been updated in a while. | ||
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+ | Can we replace it with something more relevant? Like [[File:Icon-rarity.png|50px]] or a greyed out version of [[File:Crafting-AlchemyMachine-Alchemy Machine icon.png|50px]] (since not all rarities are used crafting)? | ||
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+ | The pickup vial is a little odd this late in the game. I think I can replace the actual image file myself, but the main page it's on doesn't allow editing, so I want to ask. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:17, 9 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | : Changed. It may take a while for the cached image to update. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 17:24, 17 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
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+ | [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:Preview_grand_finale_600x160.jpg This Image] seems a bit wonky. Idk if it's important but I just found it going through categories and I can't tag it...which makes me think it's important :O (why is it in icky jpg eeeeew)-[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 05:11, 19 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
+ | :[http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:Power_surge_weekend_600x160.jpg also this one]. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 05:13, 19 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ==Outdated External Link== | ||
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+ | User:MtaxXx mentioned an outdated link on the [[Talk:Account security|discussion page of Account Security]]. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 15:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ==Template Category Project== | ||
+ | I'm attempting to put various templates into easy to navigate/understand categories, so users don't generate new templates when there might already be one they're looking for (something I did frequently when I was new here and would have appreciated as a nubbie editor). Understandably, I can't edit the [[:Template:Showhide]] code - could you add <nowiki> [[Category:Showhide Templates]]</nowiki> to it? If I find more...specialized templates around the wiki that I can't edit so they fall into categories, I'll return here again. Thanks, -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 15:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
+ | :It would be cool to do the '''<nowiki>[[Category:Showhide Templates|*]]</nowiki>''' thingie since it's the daddy template of these templates. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 15:35, 2 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ==Organizing & Cleaning Category Images== | ||
+ | [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:Unique_variant.png This Image] bothers me on so many levels. Bad tag, and it's not a true visual of the situation - that horizontal zigzag line doesn't appear in-game...I get what this image is meant to do but I don't think it's appropriate. The image is technically of an item, yes, in that it is of an item's...tooltip...thing...but compared to most other tag specifics, it just doesn't make sense. Could we delete this image...if not, could we change the tag to <nowiki>{{wiki image}}</nowiki>? I would just change the file that shows up on the [[Unique Variant]] page and add a delete tag myself, but this weird image is protected, so I need to check here first. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 04:47, 5 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
+ | :There are lots of images in [[:Category:Item images]] that don't have tags that make sense. I have <nowiki>{{text image}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{interface image}}</nowiki> tags that I think would be appropriate for most of these, but I can't edit some of them. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 05:06, 5 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
+ | :: Do you have a list? --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 17:58, 6 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
+ | :::I do not. I've made/there are the following categories: | ||
+ | :<nowiki>{{interface image}}</nowiki> if there's clickable button things or <nowiki>{{text image}}</nowiki> for if there's no clickable button things, | ||
+ | :<nowiki>{{news image}}</nowiki> | ||
+ | :<nowiki>{{obsolete image}}</nowiki> | ||
+ | :<nowiki>{{screenshot image}}</nowiki> | ||
+ | |||
+ | and I think "File:Unique variant.png" should just be deleted for reasons stated above. | ||
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+ | Please change the tags of protected images as you see fit. I'd love to go through [[:Category:Item images]] and [[:Category:Official images]] and fix/add various tags, but yeah I can't. Sorry for late reply, I didn't see that this page had changed - I should add it to my watchlist! -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 11:23, 14 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Modified edit: | ||
+ | and I think "File:Unique variant.png" should just be deleted for reasons stated above. | ||
+ | |||
+ | I'd love to go through [[:Category:Item images]] and [[:Category:Official images]] and fix/add various tags, but yeah I can't. | ||
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+ | Would it be best to unprotect files that are not sensitive regarding billing? Or just temporarily unprotect them so I can tag them? Early wiki days were weird. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:13, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
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+ | :This is just a side thing. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98zVUqWlh3Q Destroying] pages is probably higher on your list of things to do. I've managed to make another pile of them >,..,> -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:17, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ==Winterfest Prize Box== | ||
+ | ''[http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/70024 1.5% - An Impostoclaus Hat and Winterfest Coat costume armor set! This exceptionally rare item gives you the look of the fabled Impostoclaus and lasts forever! (set includes both items)]'' - by this, does it mean that the set came out (like both hat and coat) at the same time from a single unboxing at 1.5% chance? Nobody I know seems to remember. This information is totally super duper important. Totally. I'll have to slightly adjust templates if this is the case. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 21:10, 6 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ==Confirming Anniversary Prize Box things== | ||
+ | Did the "Anniversary Prize Box 2014" also have [[Party Blowout]]s, [[Party Hat]]s, and [[Sprinkle Aura]]s (like the [[Anniversary Prize Box]]) in addition to the newer [[Grand Topper]]s, [[Field Cap]]s, and [[Plumed Cap]]s? [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/98894 This Forum Post] has the bulleted list a little iffy, and I've found a video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uTZPzzXggp0#t=234 here] that shows Maskwell's list (so, no party hats etc. for straight up tokens, as I almost thought from that admin post). I don't have anything in my memory bank or files that can verify. Is there anywhere that lists the % chances for the Anniversary Prize Box 2014? Thanks, -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 03:01, 4 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
+ | :: The only information we have available is the forum post you linked and [[Surprise_Box_Promotion_April_2014|this page]]. --[[User:Clotho|Clotho]] 03:54, 6 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::: aw shucks :(. I guess I'll just leave a note on the Anniversary Prize Box 2014 page about "unsure about the prize pool." Thanks for looking. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 04:23, 6 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ==Icon Fixes== | ||
+ | Catching my breath... | ||
+ | |||
+ | I've gone through and fixed several icons (and typos in redirects) around the wiki. That was...invisible work! I plan on "fixing" perks too, and a few other odds and ends. I wish this mentality were more common: | ||
+ | |||
+ | :Just because something doesn't have an appearance in-game separate from its icon, doesn't mean it's fine to upload one without "icon" in the filename, otherwise tables can't be uniform and switches get quite silly (I looked at the switch I did for one of the tables, and was just like ALL RIGHT, TIME TO FIX THIS SILLYNESS like a few of us editors did for confetti and boxes). | ||
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+ | Anyway, I ramble... All that's left is outdated filenames on the [[Supply Depot]] page, which is currently protected, so I can't edit it. Would you mind changing the filenames to the ones used on the wiki now (all examples on [[Rarity]] page)? Or you could unprotect the page (again, haha - like you did so I could link to [[Supply Depot Sale]] stuff). The risk here is that I might not be online when it's unprotected, I suppose. | ||
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+ | Not gonna look at/fix materials. That's just too many files, the system works fine (making switches for something that consistently inconsistent-with-wiki isn't so bad), and nobody REALLY cares except my inner OCD Devilite and well, I'm only gonna be alive so long on this planet. The same sort of thing bothers me about "equipped" images...the days before tooltip rotations were dark indeed. Nope. Not worth anyone's time to "fix." Nope. Nooooope. | ||
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+ | Thanks, | ||
+ | -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 11:08, 8 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ==Probably-Shouldn't-Be-On-Wiki-Images== | ||
+ | [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Copyright_risk&limit=500 Copyright Risk] - created that tag so admins can deal with these in bulk as editors use the tag. What should be done about these images? I'm 99% sure they're copyrighted. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 15:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
+ | :I have just found the <nowiki>{{copyvio}}</nowiki> tag by chance working on another project. So, using that instead! I'll be working on a "how to wiki guide" pretty soon...so people can know that things like this already exist and not embarrass themselves. -[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
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== Vandalism == | == Vandalism == | ||
Revision as of 23:15, 17 February 2015
Contents
- 1 A Big Project
- 2 Images, Animation, and Mouse
- 3 Tabber
- 4 Icon for Crafting
- 5 Outdated External Link
- 6 Template Category Project
- 7 Organizing & Cleaning Category Images
- 8 Winterfest Prize Box
- 9 Confirming Anniversary Prize Box things
- 10 Icon Fixes
- 11 Probably-Shouldn't-Be-On-Wiki-Images
- 12 Vandalism
- 13 I guess I'll put advertisers here now
- 14 Just a note
- 15 starter pack
- 16 This isn't right. You monster.
- 17 =Hello, two questions
A Big Project
Hello, as you can see from a ton of sandbox edits lately, we're trying to build a thing! This thing could be pretty major, so I think it would be smart to ask for staff opinion(s).
It's a list that can sort things via name, damage or defense type, resistances, abilities, penalties, and star, and so on, depending on the type of item.
I want to make this because a lot of players seem to have trouble finding certain item types and comparing items. After several months of this on the bottom of my "things I could try to do for the wiki in my spare time of which I have too much" I decided to get goin on it.
Naturally, I went to the forums to get more opinions.
So we've a lot of us have been putting lots of thought into this, and people seem to like the idea in general, but to sum up the forum discussion, we're not having an efficient time deciding on format.
Some opinion(s) on something this large from staff would be great, and, smart to get, yeah? -Novaster 01:10, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, also, can we get confirmation about the order of release for items? I've checked release/all but it doesn't mention everything :)/ -Novaster 21:19, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- The wiki is a community project and in general we rely on the consensus of the player community for such decisions, unless it's something that goes against the style guide/policy. As for release, I'm afraid I don't have a way to find that information easily and sending a query to the developers is out of the question. However, I can take a look and see what I can find. Which items are the ones that need fact-checking? --Clotho 18:23, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Not sure yet, we've not tried to make all tables (since we're changing so much, it would be silly to do that work and have to change that too) - when we do, I'll post here. -Novaster 19:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Update: the armor lists are filled in, namewise - in what we believe is the DoR order. Verification would be nice once we get them all onto the same page :D -Novaster 22:19, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Not sure yet, we've not tried to make all tables (since we're changing so much, it would be silly to do that work and have to change that too) - when we do, I'll post here. -Novaster 19:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- The wiki is a community project and in general we rely on the consensus of the player community for such decisions, unless it's something that goes against the style guide/policy. As for release, I'm afraid I don't have a way to find that information easily and sending a query to the developers is out of the question. However, I can take a look and see what I can find. Which items are the ones that need fact-checking? --Clotho 18:23, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Images, Animation, and Mouse
So I had a thought - would it be at all possible to have any APNGs we upload to the wiki be frozen on the first frame - only animating if a user hovers their mouse over the image? I've seen this before around the intranetz but IDK how we would (or if we could) go about it on the wiki. Just a thought! Would be nice for new players wanting to get a good look at an item, but otherwise be un-distracted by movement on the page while they look at other things. -Novaster 07:58, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
- This looks like a topic for discussion for the wiki editors forums. --Clotho 18:28, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Tabber
Oh look, Nova is doing weird things on the wiki again!
So I've been trying to make a nice...thing...that mimics a few in-game interfaces. Basically it's a tab box that:
- doesn't link to other pages unless specified, a self-contained thing
- provides a great way to organize things
- and blahblah
I poked around on our wiki and couldn't find anything anywhere that behaves like this.
I poked around on MediaWiki, and they have a "tabber" extension. Do we have this? I tried making a template but it didn't quite work, wondering if I'm just not plugging something in correctly. If we don't have this extension, would it be possible to get it? Since we're powered by MediaWiki here and all that (I have...no idea...how these things work :D...magic?)
So I spent some time messing around last night trying to incorporate show/hide, and the sheer pathetic level of my efforts made me laugh.
relevant derpy template 1 relevant derpy template 2
I think it's clear what I'm trying to do? If not, I'll try to elaborate more. I'm talking with some friends about how to do this, and none of 'em seem to have a clue how to do it.
EDIT: File:Templaterequest tabber.png
Thanks for reading! -Novaster 14:51, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
- OH an optional scrollbar parameter would be ideal, if possible. -Novaster 16:37, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
- Talked with some friends, and they said something about old MediaWiki not having the capacity for new MediaWiki things. That makes me sad D:. Messed around with it some more, and, well, the way that it's NOT working is making me laugh at least. -Novaster 00:26, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- We don't ave those extensions and it's likely they won't be implemented any time soon. Sorry! --Clotho 17:14, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- Talked with some friends, and they said something about old MediaWiki not having the capacity for new MediaWiki things. That makes me sad D:. Messed around with it some more, and, well, the way that it's NOT working is making me laugh at least. -Novaster 00:26, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- TL;DR: Sorry about all the junk templates and trashed pages I generate in this process. I am inspired.
- -Novaster 02:43, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
Icon for Crafting
The main wiki page has a silly icon for crafting...not been updated in a while.
Can we replace it with something more relevant? Like or a greyed out version of (since not all rarities are used crafting)?
The pickup vial is a little odd this late in the game. I think I can replace the actual image file myself, but the main page it's on doesn't allow editing, so I want to ask. -Novaster 22:17, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Changed. It may take a while for the cached image to update. --Clotho 17:24, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
This Image seems a bit wonky. Idk if it's important but I just found it going through categories and I can't tag it...which makes me think it's important :O (why is it in icky jpg eeeeew)-Novaster 05:11, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
- also this one. -Novaster 05:13, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Outdated External Link
User:MtaxXx mentioned an outdated link on the discussion page of Account Security. -Novaster 15:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Template Category Project
I'm attempting to put various templates into easy to navigate/understand categories, so users don't generate new templates when there might already be one they're looking for (something I did frequently when I was new here and would have appreciated as a nubbie editor). Understandably, I can't edit the Template:Showhide code - could you add [[Category:Showhide Templates]] to it? If I find more...specialized templates around the wiki that I can't edit so they fall into categories, I'll return here again. Thanks, -Novaster 15:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- It would be cool to do the [[Category:Showhide Templates|*]] thingie since it's the daddy template of these templates. -Novaster 15:35, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Organizing & Cleaning Category Images
This Image bothers me on so many levels. Bad tag, and it's not a true visual of the situation - that horizontal zigzag line doesn't appear in-game...I get what this image is meant to do but I don't think it's appropriate. The image is technically of an item, yes, in that it is of an item's...tooltip...thing...but compared to most other tag specifics, it just doesn't make sense. Could we delete this image...if not, could we change the tag to {{wiki image}}? I would just change the file that shows up on the Unique Variant page and add a delete tag myself, but this weird image is protected, so I need to check here first. -Novaster 04:47, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- There are lots of images in Category:Item images that don't have tags that make sense. I have {{text image}} and {{interface image}} tags that I think would be appropriate for most of these, but I can't edit some of them. -Novaster 05:06, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- Do you have a list? --Clotho 17:58, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- I do not. I've made/there are the following categories:
- Do you have a list? --Clotho 17:58, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- {{interface image}} if there's clickable button things or {{text image}} for if there's no clickable button things,
- {{news image}}
- {{obsolete image}}
- {{screenshot image}}
and I think "File:Unique variant.png" should just be deleted for reasons stated above.
Please change the tags of protected images as you see fit. I'd love to go through Category:Item images and Category:Official images and fix/add various tags, but yeah I can't. Sorry for late reply, I didn't see that this page had changed - I should add it to my watchlist! -Novaster 11:23, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Modified edit: and I think "File:Unique variant.png" should just be deleted for reasons stated above.
I'd love to go through Category:Item images and Category:Official images and fix/add various tags, but yeah I can't.
Would it be best to unprotect files that are not sensitive regarding billing? Or just temporarily unprotect them so I can tag them? Early wiki days were weird. -Novaster 20:13, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- This is just a side thing. Destroying pages is probably higher on your list of things to do. I've managed to make another pile of them >,..,> -Novaster 20:17, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Winterfest Prize Box
1.5% - An Impostoclaus Hat and Winterfest Coat costume armor set! This exceptionally rare item gives you the look of the fabled Impostoclaus and lasts forever! (set includes both items) - by this, does it mean that the set came out (like both hat and coat) at the same time from a single unboxing at 1.5% chance? Nobody I know seems to remember. This information is totally super duper important. Totally. I'll have to slightly adjust templates if this is the case. -Novaster 21:10, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Confirming Anniversary Prize Box things
Did the "Anniversary Prize Box 2014" also have Party Blowouts, Party Hats, and Sprinkle Auras (like the Anniversary Prize Box) in addition to the newer Grand Toppers, Field Caps, and Plumed Caps? This Forum Post has the bulleted list a little iffy, and I've found a video here that shows Maskwell's list (so, no party hats etc. for straight up tokens, as I almost thought from that admin post). I don't have anything in my memory bank or files that can verify. Is there anywhere that lists the % chances for the Anniversary Prize Box 2014? Thanks, -Novaster 03:01, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
- The only information we have available is the forum post you linked and this page. --Clotho 03:54, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
- aw shucks :(. I guess I'll just leave a note on the Anniversary Prize Box 2014 page about "unsure about the prize pool." Thanks for looking. -Novaster 04:23, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
- The only information we have available is the forum post you linked and this page. --Clotho 03:54, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Icon Fixes
Catching my breath...
I've gone through and fixed several icons (and typos in redirects) around the wiki. That was...invisible work! I plan on "fixing" perks too, and a few other odds and ends. I wish this mentality were more common:
- Just because something doesn't have an appearance in-game separate from its icon, doesn't mean it's fine to upload one without "icon" in the filename, otherwise tables can't be uniform and switches get quite silly (I looked at the switch I did for one of the tables, and was just like ALL RIGHT, TIME TO FIX THIS SILLYNESS like a few of us editors did for confetti and boxes).
Anyway, I ramble... All that's left is outdated filenames on the Supply Depot page, which is currently protected, so I can't edit it. Would you mind changing the filenames to the ones used on the wiki now (all examples on Rarity page)? Or you could unprotect the page (again, haha - like you did so I could link to Supply Depot Sale stuff). The risk here is that I might not be online when it's unprotected, I suppose.
Not gonna look at/fix materials. That's just too many files, the system works fine (making switches for something that consistently inconsistent-with-wiki isn't so bad), and nobody REALLY cares except my inner OCD Devilite and well, I'm only gonna be alive so long on this planet. The same sort of thing bothers me about "equipped" images...the days before tooltip rotations were dark indeed. Nope. Not worth anyone's time to "fix." Nope. Nooooope.
Thanks, -Novaster 11:08, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Probably-Shouldn't-Be-On-Wiki-Images
Copyright Risk - created that tag so admins can deal with these in bulk as editors use the tag. What should be done about these images? I'm 99% sure they're copyrighted. -Novaster 15:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- I have just found the {{copyvio}} tag by chance working on another project. So, using that instead! I'll be working on a "how to wiki guide" pretty soon...so people can know that things like this already exist and not embarrass themselves. -Novaster 00:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Vandalism
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Special:Contributions/Bolivio This guy has been vandalising the Unity Guild page for a few times already. Just look at his contributions: Putting stripes through the member names, removing certain templates, etc. I have talked to the GMs of Unity and they are trying to find out who is causing this Vandalism since the way this guy vandalised the page means he must have a grudge against Unity. --10000fists 09:56, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
I guess I'll put advertisers here now
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Special:Contributions/Dentist659 --Trying 13:49, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Took care of him, thank you! --Clotho 17:41, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Special:Contributions/Dentist699 --Trying 12:53, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Special:Contributions/6Kastru61 --Trying 14:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- They're getting tricky. http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Special:Contributions/Umrah976 --Trying 13:10, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
- http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Special:Contributions/Clinic04hair --Trying 19:57, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
- Pesky spammers taken care of! --Clotho 20:11, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
- http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Special:Contributions/Clinic06hair --Trying 14:21, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
- http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Special:Contributions/8Kastru65 --Trying 15:36, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Special:Contributions/Dentist116 --Trying 06:54, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- All blocked, thanks for the report! --Clotho 22:03, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- Special:Contributions/Epayment12 --Trying 17:02, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- Special:Contributions/Columbus98 --Trying 14:24, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- Special:Contributions/Epayment14 --Trying 09:31, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Special:Contributions/Hairgrowth45 --Trying 13:37, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Blocked! --Clotho 19:53, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Found one: User:Clientinnova = please make it go away. Novaster 08:24, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
- Found one: User:Boostvertica = please make it go away. Novaster 19:03, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Since there's so few external links on the wiki, the ExternalLinks extension would probably be very helpful, as you could just check it every week/month and see what new links have popped up. --Efreak 05:48, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Just a note
Now everyone will know you have an alt named Spinner. Bad idea.--Trying 20:16, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
- That was a random name used on preview. I should have used a more generic name, now that I think about, will change it to avoid confusion. --Clotho 20:49, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
starter pack
The page is locked so could you update that page? Starter Pack--Trying 21:05, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- All the packs need updating, waiting for word from the billing department. Thanks! --Clotho 21:09, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'm just getting the values straight off of [1] and it seems to be up to date. --Trying 21:12, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- Yes it is! However, new word from billing department is that we will protect all those pages from now on, as anything listed there is considered 'official' information. Getting to that now, thanks for the heads up! --Clotho 21:16, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'm just getting the values straight off of [1] and it seems to be up to date. --Trying 21:12, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
This isn't right. You monster.
I read the April Fools 2012 event page, and the pictures of talking monsters were missing. I then read the history, and here we are. This is like the Soviet Union airbrushing out the cosmonauts who failed missions.
Put 'em back.
Cheers,
Someone who is too smart to associate themselves with this.
- Poor monsters are mute! --Clotho 02:21, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- "Poor monsters" were SILENCED
=Hello, two questions
I've posted these on Equinox's talk page, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to have them here as well:
Accessory Species
Hi, I've been talking with players for around two years now, and one thing they've always wanted is overworld previews. Most things look completely different during regular gameplay than they do in the preview/inspect windows. I've been working on creating various images and .gifs for this purpose, but life got in the way. Then spring break came for my university, and I did several this past week. But then I noticed an issue...
There have been so many promotions featuring new and unique accessories that the wiki pages on accessories at first just seemed to be out of date, and it's a fun hobby to help out. I dug deeper. I think I got over-inspired (my rapid reversion of a few images indicates my awakening from this inspiration - oops went too far, haha) and might have done some atypical labeling. For example, there are power pistons, golden laurels, apocrean disciple crowns, plasma wings...ruinous crystal...and on. And potentially on forever as the game progresses. These accessories are "unique" in that they are their own isolated "style" - no "volcanic power pistons" or "cool halo," and so on. So I decided to put anything that behaves like this into its own accessory slot, "Unique Helmet Front" for glow eyes, "Unique Helmet Side" for golden laurel, etc. The most important one so far (imo) is the Unique Armor Back, since that slot has the most unique accessories (well, besides auras, but those have always been special/unique) so far.
I did this to see how it looked in the menus and on pages. My reasoning behind this: if we keep making individual list slots for every special accessory, the list on the main accessory page could "scroll for miles" within a few years, or even several months, with all the aesthetics Spiral Knights keeps producing.
But I feel this isn't the most formal or appropriate way to do things, as in-game they are not called "unique helmet top." Granted, a person searching the term would be suggested the page containing information on the item, but I am still unsure.
I foresee many unique accessories coming to the game, however they may look, for all the slots available on helms and armors, given time.
How should we go about cataloging the "unique" accessories? And for that matter, how should we organize any gifs we create of accessories that move/animate in special ways (working on auras I find, and things like dapper combos and candle are mostly finished). I've been using show/hide tabs and tried to be consistent with file naming. So far, people love these animations. I've had in-game players thank me for letting them "just see the orbit aura." I give credit to the person who poses for me, if their name isn't in the image/animation.
Note - working on updating the too-large images currently in the accessory list, to match the size of the old images so the list isn't huge. Oops. This is largely dependent on what I find in the AH.
So, yeah - How should we go about organizing accessories, and information on accessories, with all the new content?
EDIT: well, I went ahead and did the unique slot thing, and people seem to love it.
Thanks, -Novaster 22:09, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Vandal returns
Recently you blocked User:Xmaster10000 from editing. Now User:Xmaster100 is vandalizing pages. I just thought you might like to know. Jdavis 16:41, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you! It has been taken care of. --Clotho 17:38, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Categories
Howdy, I've done an experiment with the Military-Themed category page. I've put the category tag on all the military-themed accessories in the game. I think it works pretty well, as these acc don't have their own pages, and thusly wouldn't show up in a category search. Would this sort of thing be condoned? If so, I'd love to go through and add theme tags to all the image files of accessories. -Novaster 22:09, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
EDIT: oh no I got excited and did it to ancient accessory image files too. Novaster 08:13, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- This is the sort of thing that is best discussed in the Wiki Editors forums, as it's best to have a consensus before making any major change. Whatever the majority agrees upon is fine with me! --Clotho 17:17, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for getting rid of those ultra-specific category pages, obviously they didn't work out as planned! (Really thanks, not sarcasm). -Novaster 07:11, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
- You're welcome! They were marked for immediate deletion with no comments. Didn't have time to clear everything in the deleted category, however, but will try to continue doing that in the next few days. --Clotho 18:30, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Could you look at:
If you have the time, can you look at either (or both) of the "Template:WeaponInfo" and "Template:Equipment see also" templates? I'm not sure which one would be better to edit for this goal, but if I had to guess, it would be the "see also" one. We're trying to have a link to specific guides based on what item type is on the page - so a Sword (like the Sudaruska) would link to the Swordmaster Guide in the "See Also" section. I fiddled around with them but nothing worked exactly like we wanted it to. Sadface. -Novaster 16:49, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
P.S. - Here we are on the forums chatting about it -Novaster 16:52, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
- Tested it out, but it's not registering the right switch - it's still not "communicating" with the weaponinfo template. Feels like it's getting closer, though. -Novaster 01:13, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
- If you want it to interact with the weaponinfo template using the "type" from that template, but at the same time being separate templates, then I can't help - way above my wiki magic tricks :) Right now it needs its own type to be specified within this template, i.e. {{Equipment see also|type= Foo}}. That said, how about this version?
- Hmm, personally I like it but, the other wiki people probably won't "go for it," since pages have the "See Also" at the bottom in general. It might also lead to too much clutter in a "general info" box. Gotta love those standard formatting issues. It's good to have this option in case the future demands something similar. We'll just link to a general category page for all of the guides (probably - something that has yet to be made), that seemed to be the plan B in the forums. The thought process would be something like "hmm...I was just on a sword page...I should probably...pick the sword guide out of the rest of these guides! Yes!" Great challenge/effort though... Thanks for looking into it! -Novaster 16:56, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
- P.S. - Trying out this Category Page (linked to it in the "Equipment See Also" template used on equipment pages), we'll see if people like it! -Novaster 17:21, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
- If you want it to interact with the weaponinfo template using the "type" from that template, but at the same time being separate templates, then I can't help - way above my wiki magic tricks :) Right now it needs its own type to be specified within this template, i.e. {{Equipment see also|type= Foo}}. That said, how about this version?
- Tested it out, but it's not registering the right switch - it's still not "communicating" with the weaponinfo template. Feels like it's getting closer, though. -Novaster 01:13, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Categories: "Category:Redirects from alternate names "
I love this cat tag! Thanks for bringing it back into the light. Anyway, a few things in there are actually named properly in-game (sometimes the "game files" and "in-game names", and even vs. the dev posts ("floral halo"! Oh dear! All is forgiven :P), are not in sync - so going with the in-game term feels the most comfy. I went in and did some fixes. This "prize box project" I'm working on is sure exposing a lot of holes.-Novaster 01:22, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
P.S - I think this logic works: if there's ever more, for example, "dust bunny tails", then we'll fix the "dust bunny tail" to not have this "alternate name" category, and probably either redirect the "lovely dust bunny tail" to the new "dust bunny tail" page, or delete the individual page entirely (I'm loath to make redirects for color styles of non-unique accessories - people rarely type all that out and boy, the clutter on the category pages!). This happened quickly with "lovely bent vertical vents" and the later released "bent vertical vents" - for that one, I did a redirect...still missing a pic of unattached volcanic. Grrr. -Novaster 01:37, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- Hee, I love those tags too. it's hard to know where to draw the line between adding a redirect or not - just use your best judgment, that usually works! As for the inconsistencies, if there are any 'official' pages that need to be updated to the in-game name, please let me know and I'll take care of it. --Clotho 02:14, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Usables Project
Gosh, I had a lot of time today! Anyway:
Trying to get pages nice and organized with capital letters and such, so less-than-ideal pages can be deleted properly - I can't edit This Page or This Page - All they need are capital As for heat amps, and then the bad "Heat amplifier" page can go away forever. (Replaced with "Heat Amplifier."). Usually I find that the wiki hiccups once or twice, then registers the capital letter change - but that could just be something weird with my browser. Is it like this for everyone? If not, I feel a bit silly fiddling around with capital letters. -Novaster 05:52, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- Done! --Clotho 17:51, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Supply Depot Page
Hello, I see that the Supply Depot page has been protected, so we can't edit it. I get it, it's a very important page! But it's a bit lacking in information regarding the flash sales. I'd love to add a picture and a few other things - I feel like linking to the forum logs (this is one of them) for the "flash sales" might be beneficial to players - certainly, having a dedicated log of all sales (and all the items in that sale, with their duration and price) would be great, but it is difficult for us users to accurately and officially track everything. I've suggested that the GMs give us logs, at least after the sales, but have not heard much on this note (desire for a GM-released log came from two thoughts: to prevent various scam techniques, as well as being generally useful). Anyway, could the Supply Depot page be unprotected so we can add clarity to the "flash sales" in the "specials" section? -Novaster 15:04, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks a bunch! I've added a link to another page, so us editors can update that with information on future flash sales without blocking issues. My edits are done. -Novaster 21:45, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
- Okay I had to add one more thing. I am very sure I'm done now! -Novaster 22:46, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
Broken Link
There seems to be a broken link on the Release/all page, and we can't edit that page. It's red text for "developers." You fixing that would be super awesome! -Novaster 23:39, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
- Oh it's fixed! Hurray! -Novaster 17:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Spacing Issue
I can't figure out why the template for Weapons causes a space at the top of a page, while the Armorinfo template does not. This is an image demonstrating the difference. I'd like to eliminate the space there (whyyyyyy in the image), but I can't figure out how. Is it the template? Or my browser? Or just magic? I'd love for the spacing to be like the Armorinfo template. If you have time, could you look at what might be causing this? Some editors are talking about the page format itself (like whether or not to say "blahblah is a blah star item" - I say yes! This is consistent! Anyway...), but keeping spacing consistent for these templates would be a good idea in general. Thanks, -Novaster 19:25, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Looking at template history...and that's all it was!? Thanks so much for fixing that. -Novaster 01:56, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Missions Category
So I noticed that we don't have a missions category. The Operation Crimson Hammer page is protected, so we can't edit it. Would you mind adding the Category:Missions tag to it? Thanks! Honestly it could use more screenshots...and more info about secrets and strategy...I understand why it's protected, and kind of wish it was possible to just protect single sections of pages. Is it? So we can't mess up billing info? argh. -Novaster 17:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
- Category added. How about creating a sandbox with the additions and I'll copy/paste it once it's ready? --Clotho 17:54, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Missing Promotional Images
official "Icons" (not usable "prize box" icons - examples: , , etc.) for these promotions are missing:
Not "buy this box via purchase" per-say:
- anniversary prize box
- Dark Harvest prize box
- frosty prize box
- companion prize box
These are not your typical...profit-box? haha. Anyway, not sure if these get official icons, as they're not part of billing and so on.
"Profit Boxes" - promotional image icon thing missing:
- decoration kit prize box
- elite trinket
- gobble snipe box
- gourmet prize box
- nemesis prize box (this also needs an Admin wiki page creation in general)
- obsidian prize box
- polar prize box
- winterfest prize boxes
Oh and, the "blooming," "equinox", "katastrophe", "rage", "rose regalia," "Slime," "Splash", and "Surprise" icon things could use that interesting... "protection tag?" Some of the others do, these don't, dunno why, seems odd to me :D. So I thought I'd mention it. The "stormy" one has a different tag, might as well mention that too.
I see that Thalia usually posts the promotional pages but, Thalia doesn't have a Talk page yet, so, I didn't know exactly how to politely post this request, but here it is!
Hope I didn't miss any.
I don't know where I get the editing energy from, it just comes and goes. -Novaster 07:14, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- I'll try to get the missing icons, but it may take a few days. Thanks! --Clotho 17:56, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Accessories and Lockboxes
I went in today and fixed up a few things for accessories - namely ToC issues and a nice acquisition column (was another player's suggestion that I agreed with wholeheartedly). ("Trivia" vs. "Notes" forum discussion in there for the ToC stuff). My main worry is the accuracy of some of the Lockbox availabilities for many of the accessories - it would be nice to get confirmation on all Lockbox drops, if possible. This is a rather large/serious request, and many players would appreciate it (I'm very sure - they're the only boxes we gamble with but don't have an official, complete drop table for). All we know is that the drop table has been changed over time (with release notes like these. Thanks! -Novaster 01:06, 27 July 2014 (UTC)