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NPC pages

Notes now that we've run into a few obstacles:

• Noticed that appearances are lengthy and complex. They really shouldn't go in the infobox. Moving them to the main article in their own section is better. Besides, the picture in the infobox is worth 1000 words. Most other wiki's I've seen do things this way. Of course, for certain NPCs, we will use a template to make listing equipment easier.
• The infobox entry needs to be simplified so monster species can be specified, for example, "spookat" instead of "monster."
• List vs. Individual: somehow clarify... just think of NPCs as weapons. We have a list of each weapon type: bomb, handgun, sword. Each weapon has its own page. "leviathan blade" is a "sword," which is a "weapon." "Virgil" is a "spiral warden," which is a "type of NPC." --Novaster 23:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Apparence: Knights are the one who should have them in the infobox, for Gremlins need only the items extra (Nonna, has a Flower an a Mask for example), for Strangers it is not that necessary i guess just add the mask "symbol" and the "main color" and in case other thing (like Bootshuze how kinda looks like a gremlin) add it but only in general, for monsters, just add which family it is because in appearance, almost all monster are the same.

Infobox: Agreed.

List vs individual: A main list of NPCs could be fine and can be sorted like missions which have Rank mission, Prestige mission, Expansion Missions and arcade mission, in a NPC list would be Knight, Strangers, Monsters, and Bosses.

For an extra thing, i would like a "title" parameter. The Role parameter would not be shown in the page but help to add the category but the Title would show. Like Archilus, he would be Knight: Elemental Defender but his role parameter would have vendor and the category would be added. For those without tittle a switch can be added to show the role then. --Hikaru 00:17, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

PD: the px in the mugshot should be fixed, i tried but faild EDIT: Cool! thx~ but isnt a tiny? though it would have the width of the info box. Anyways when you come back we can talk it better ~ --Hikaru 00:17, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

It currently matches the basic infobox dimensions (such as Bolted Vee default, which is 201x222px), but for some reason the template doesn't like #x#px restriction. IMO the Basil pic is now the perfect size, but for pics that are erm...out of date, regarding your great transparency and isolation work, will not look so hot. Bulky isn't looking happy, for example, but when he's isolated like Basil is, I think it will be a good size. This works pretty well for overworld shots such as Edger too, but I think I/we should try harder to make sure the overworld pic dimensions are a square instead of a rectangle (which I didn't because Edger was larger than my standard capture), for various reasons. I suppose the left/right padding is a bit much and could be looked into (all that empty blue space to the left/right of the pictures in the infobox is what I'm referring to, a separate issue from image size, though they are related yes). EDIT: actually bleh they really should stay as they are, they reflect in-game size and the infobox can't be any skinnier for various text squishing reasons. And it didn't bother me until I thought maybe it was a problem, but then I remembered that some NPC portraits are really just cut off like that (especially Vanabutt). And yeah I really should sleep...had a lot of downtime today because of the thing that cut the vacation short, which is a family medical emergency. --Novaster 02:19, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Bulky indeed, looks pretty sad lol, but there will be the event sooner so i can take screen yay~ Im going to sleep. Hope it wasnt that bad! (your medical emergency) take care~ --Hikaru 02:39, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes and the px. EDIT: fixed the px issue...but not in the way I really wanted to, oh well. Regarding the infobox, it really has to be consistent. We can't have appearance in the infobox just for knights, when every NPC has an appearance that can be described (which is different than other topics which not every entity has, such as "depth range" not being a thing for dialogue missions). It makes finding the same type of information a real hassle, and is the reason people are so unhappy with many equipment pages, which were slapped together in the past with inconsistent ToC sections as well as inconsistent ToC order. Here are some examples from other wikis, regarding appearances (I don't necessarily agree with the format of these wikis, just showing the description of how they look in paragraph/partial list form is the point here):

• Bulbapedia
• Fairy Tail wikia
• Warframe wikia

I regret not using this format with the page format I set up from the start, as it seems to be the proper thing to do. --Novaster 00:50, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Battle Sprite Skills

First of all, that header scared me, it sure do its mission to being notice xD
About the Skills. Why dont we move the ultimate upgrades to the main page? Example: Ray of Light have two ultimates, but in individual pages. It doesnt seem useful because the Ray of Light's page doesnt have THAT much info, why dont merged them together and just add redirects to the individuals pages? --Hikaru 01:03, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

I would support this change. I think I have "improve BS skill pages" somewhere on my to do list. It would show animations too, a lot of people never see the Haunted Haze death effects. --Novaster 01:04, 11 October 2015 (UTC)