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This page gives my advice on how to buy and craft equipment. It applies equally well to P2P and F2P players. It is focused on play in the [[Clockworks]], but most of it applies to Tier-3 PvP as well. You might also want to check out my [[User:Jdavis/Swords|Sword]], [[User:Jdavis/Handguns|Handgun]], and [[User:Jdavis/Bombs|Bomb]] Guides.
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About me: I'm not the best player in the game, but I'm an advanced player who has observed many other advanced players. I am primarily a swordsman. Usually I play with three swords and no other weapons. However, I have also used a variety of handguns and bombs. Under my knight name Bopp, I've given lots of advice on the [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/forum/53 Arsenal forum], most of which has been well-received. (I started writing these equipment guides when I tired of answering the same questions over and over again.) I try to explain and justify all of opinions, so that you can understand them and make up your own mind.
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[[File:BoppPurpleSpiral.png|thumb|right|A proud moment for me.]]
  
==Which Items?==
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Hi. You're probably here for my guides to ''Spiral Knights'':
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*[[User:Jdavis/Swords|Swords]] is my most popular guide.
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*[[User:Jdavis/Armor|Armor]] might actually be better than Swords.
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*[[User:Jdavis/Shields|Shields]] is my newest guide.
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*[[User:Jdavis/Forging|Forging]] helps you save Radiant Fire Crystals.
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*[[User:Jdavis/UVs|Unique Variants]] is unfinished but helps you plan your spending anyway.
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*[[User:Jdavis/5-Star Items|List of 5-Star Items]] is a reference with all the key information.
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*[[User:Jdavis/FAQs|Frequently Asked Questions]] answers miscellaneous questions that come up on the forums.
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Over the years I've started several other guides, which are too incomplete or outdated even to mention.
  
Think entirely in terms of 5-star items, because that's where everything ends up. Instead of asking "Do I want a [[Magnus]]?", ask "Do I want a [[Callahan]]? Do I want an [[Iron Slug]]?" Some 5-star versions of an item may be good, and others may be bad, or at least not what you wanted. So, as you plan your equipment, start by examining the 5-star items on the wiki. Once you know which 5-star items you want, you can look back in their alchemy paths, to figure out how you'll get them. (There is one exception to this 5-star focus. The bomb [[Radiant Sun Shards]] doesn't have a 5-star version, but many bombers use its 4-star version happily.)
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I started playing ''Spiral Knights'' shortly after the game launched in April 2011. I'm not the best player around, but I'm an advanced player who has observed many other advanced players. I've soloed all of the content except the [[Shadow Lair]]s and [[Kat|Margrel]]. I own a wide variety of 5-star weapons and armor, including at least one of each "style" and almost all swords.
  
If you are focused on 5-star items, as I recommend, then you will never buy 0-star or 1-star equipment. The 0-star and 1-star items are all dead ends; they can't be upgraded to the 5-star level. Even when you are just a starting player, you should save up for 2-star or maybe even 3-star equipment. The 1-star stuff is not much better than your starting equipment anyway.
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Under the name Bopp, I've spent a lot of time on the forums and the wiki, learning the rules and items, giving advice, contributing data, writing wiki pages, etc. Sometimes people try to befriend Bopp in the game. However, this knight just works the forums and wiki, while my other knights do the playing. I keep them separate, so that conflicts from one world don't spill into the other. '''Please don't be upset when I don't respond''' to friend requests in the game.
  
In choosing a [[sword]] or [[handgun]], [[damage]] type is the primary consideration; see my [[User:Jdavis/Swords | Sword Guide]] and [[User:Jdavis/Handguns | Handgun Guide]]. [[Bomb]]s are more idiosyncratic, and damage type is not the primary consideration for them; see my [[User:Jdavis/Bombs | Bomb Guide]]. Also check out the [[Swordmaster Guide]], [[Gunslinger Guide]], and [[Bombing Guide]].
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Some knights, whom I admire for forum posts, wiki editing, and research, include [[User:Vroom|Donkeyhaute]], Fehzor, Fradow, [[User:Acies|Glacies]], [[User:Gwenyvier|Gwenyvier]], [[User:Juances|Juances]], [[User:Katmint|Katmint]], Krakob, [[User:Novaster|Novaster]], [[User:Onox792|Sir-Onox]], [[User:BlarghBlargh|Skepticraven]], [[User:Trying|Trying]], and Zeddy.
  
In choosing an armor [[armor|suit]] and [[helmet]], you ideally want protection against all four damage types, protection against the most important [[status effect|statuses]] (fire, shock, and freeze), and offensive bonuses. I recommend that starting players build such a general-purpose armor set first. For example, [[Divine Veil]] with [[Skolver Coat]] offers all four damage types, four statuses, and two offensive bonuses. A mixed [[Skolver Coat|Skolver]]-[[Vog Cub Cap|Vog Cub]] setup offers three damage types, two statuses, and two sword bonuses. A mixed [[Nameless Poncho|Nameless]]-[[Justifier Hat|Justifier]] setup offers three damage types and two handgun bonuses. Once you have a general-purpose set, you can obtain additional armor pieces, to construct specialized sets.
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In the shallow strata of the Clockworks, monsters deal primarily normal damage. As you go deeper into the Clockworks, monsters increasingly deal their preferred damage type (e.g. piercing for slimes). However, even on Stratum 6, and even in highly specialized areas (e.g., [[Firestorm Citadel]]), there is still a great deal of normal damage being dealt. So your armor should always include some normal protection.
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[[Shield]]s are frequently misunderstood. You should imagine a shield as a little person hanging off your arm. This little person has his own health, separate from yours. When you activate your shield, this little person takes damage instead of you. The shield is broken when this little person "dies"; it will take no more damage for you until it recharges. The damage protections on the shield are not protections for you; they are essentially the little person's armor. For shield advice, see the [[Shieldbearer Guide]].
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==Craft or Buy?==
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This table shows the crafting costs at each star level, excluding materials. For example, crafting a 5-star item requires 800 energy, 5,000 crowns, and a recipe that costs 25,000 crowns. When CE is selling at 6,000 crowns per 100 CE, this works out to be 78,000 crowns total cost.
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This second table shows the cumulative costs, for crafting an item from scratch, excluding materials. The table assumes that the alchemy path starts at the 2-star level, although some start at the 3-star level; adjust accordingly in those cases. For example, crafting a 5-star item from scratch requires a grand total of 1,450 energy and 48,900 crowns. When CE is selling at 6,000 crowns per 100 CE, this works out to be 135,900 crowns total cost.
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It is usually cheapest to buy 2-star and 3-star items, rather than craft them. For example, you can often buy a 3-star item on the Auction House for about 16,000 crowns, which is far cheaper than the 21,400-crown cost of crafting it yourself. So why does anyone craft 2-star and 3-star items in the first place? There are two reasons. First, it is common to mass-craft 2-star items in search of [[unique variant]]s; these tables ignore the value of unique variants entirely. Second, when someone doesn't have time to play ''Spiral Knights'' on a given day, she may use her 100 ME to craft two 2-star items (or half of a 3-star item), which can be sold for a small profit.
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It is usually cheaper to craft 4-star and 5-star items yourself, rather than to buy them premade. The reason is that crafting a 4-star item requires the 3-star precursor item to be heated, which requires it to be bound. So a 4-star item can be sold only after the seller pays an 1800-energy unbinding fee. The seller passes this cost on to the buyer, so the buyer is paying a lot. The same thing certainly goes for 5-star items. The same thing goes for boss items purchased from [[Brinks]] using tokens; those are automatically bound.
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If you have a 4-star item that you don't like much, should you craft it to 5-star, or switch alchemy lines? Well, the 5-star version may be different from the 4-star version, so make sure you're not giving up prematurely. However, more than half of the cost of making a 5-star item comes in the final upgrade. So, even if you're invested in an alchemy line to the 4-star level, you're still less than halfway to 5-star; it's not too late to switch alchemy lines.
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Many players use their ME to defray crafting costs. For example, if you need to craft a 5-star item, then you need save up only 700 CE, because you can use 100 ME to fill out the 800-energy crafting cost. However, you should not fall into the trap of thinking that this 100 ME is "free". If you don't have time to play ''Spiral Knights'' on a given day, and your 100 ME for that day is going to be wasted, then by all means use it for crafting. But if you do have time to play, then you can use that 100 ME to adventure in the Clockworks and earn crowns and materials. For example, running [[Firestorm Citadel]] twice uses about 100 ME and nets you perhaps 16,000 crowns plus materials. So, in a sense, that 100 ME costs you 16,000 crowns.
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==In What Order?==
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On the [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/forum/53 Arsenal forum], people often ask questions about which item they should upgrade first. The short answer is that it doesn't really matter much. But there are some cases in which a better answer can be given.
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Typically, you want your entire set to reach a given star-level, before you push any of your items to the next star-level. For example, you want to have a solid 4-star set of equipment, before you start building any 5-star items.
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Upgrade the items that you use a lot, first. For example, that sword that you use only rarely is not a high priority.
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The conventional wisdom is that offense is more important than defense on Tier 3. This suggests that you should upgrade weapons before armor. However, people often choose armor that gives offensive bonuses. Also, a lot of armor doesn't "mature" until it reaches 5-star. For example, the popular [[Divine Veil]] and [[Vog Cub Cap]] are very different from their precursors. So, if you need the protections that they offer, you might want to upgrade them with high priority.
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Weapons and armor are weakened, when they are used on a stratum of the Clockworks that is shallower than their intended stratum. For example, on Stratum 4 a 5-star sword does not much more damage than its 4-star precursor, or even its 3-star precursor. You start seeing the full power of a 5-star sword only on Stratum 6. Similarly, a 5-star armor piece doesn't enhance your health as much on Stratum 4 as it does on Stratum 6. So if you're going to be farming the [[Royal Jelly Palace]] a lot, don't worry about upgrading your items to 5-star immediately.
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Latest revision as of 20:01, 13 August 2018

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A proud moment for me.

Hi. You're probably here for my guides to Spiral Knights:

Over the years I've started several other guides, which are too incomplete or outdated even to mention.

I started playing Spiral Knights shortly after the game launched in April 2011. I'm not the best player around, but I'm an advanced player who has observed many other advanced players. I've soloed all of the content except the Shadow Lairs and Margrel. I own a wide variety of 5-star weapons and armor, including at least one of each "style" and almost all swords.

Under the name Bopp, I've spent a lot of time on the forums and the wiki, learning the rules and items, giving advice, contributing data, writing wiki pages, etc. Sometimes people try to befriend Bopp in the game. However, this knight just works the forums and wiki, while my other knights do the playing. I keep them separate, so that conflicts from one world don't spill into the other. Please don't be upset when I don't respond to friend requests in the game.

Some knights, whom I admire for forum posts, wiki editing, and research, include Donkeyhaute, Fehzor, Fradow, Glacies, Gwenyvier, Juances, Katmint, Krakob, Novaster, Sir-Onox, Skepticraven, Trying, and Zeddy.

Happy travels.

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