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===[[File:Icon-specials.png|25px|Done!]] [Proyect] Missions===
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===[[File:Icon-talk.png|25px|Not a Proyect but related to them]] [General] Ideas and Opinions===
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Some subpages are lacking maps and gallery but aside from that, all the missions have their own page with the gate map so i call it complete~
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==Lore==
==Mission Pages==
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For a not-soon-to-be-made (maybe-probably-never-happen) if i have time and everything seems pretty. It would be nice to have a "History" page. I havent read complety the history (from mission) but would be nice. With the Dialogues u made seems like a good choice. As u said with the mission page "like a book" i think in that but in the history timeline or something like that. Ofcourse that is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far away haha but after the edits u made seems like it wouldnt be so bad cuz adding dialogues would be easily :P and artific now have their own templates --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 00:00, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Your work on [[Faith in Armor]] is great! Thanks! As you can imagine, there's a lot of work to do there. Many missions don't even have their own pages V_V. It's been a long slow project over the past few months - the best thing about the mission overhaul IMO is the [[:Category:Gate Maps|Gate Maps]] (something I've wanted, and wanted to do, ever since I was a newbie) as well as the ability to just click through individual missions using the preceded/followed by section in the infobox. Like reading a book! It will get all of my focus after this acquisition project. Feel free to work on mission pages if you want, of course. 0 pressure. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:41, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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:I like to use [[Release/all]] and maintain the [[News]] page, but there's lots of things they don't make patch notes about. Unless you mean like, lore history, of almire and whatnot. That stuff is all over the place, and yes, an article linking to and summarizing lore/history would be sweet. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:04, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
:Hey~ Thx ^^ i did one just in case but maybe i can help adding the format to the existences one and yes! The "Previous/Next Mission" was a really cool idea instead of going again to the mission list :D that was something i like when i saw the format ^^! The mission's format is really great, tbh most of the new format were the principal motive why i start wanting to edit, to help making everything look that nice :D! I will try to help in the proyects while i can ^^ --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 22:42, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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:Oh look I found [[:Category:Lore|this]]. It's a start. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:05, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 
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::I had to google that! New Word to me haha. That is what i meant! In a... Timeline format or an informative format something like, a page to talk only about the history of the game, now i know "Lore" would capsule all what i was saying haha. Im a dork for those thing haha but ofcourse, i prefer organizing the information that is like a future-not-soon-proyect i would like to help with :)!--[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 00:13, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
==Parameter Gallery==
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Leave out the <nowiki>|gallery=</nowiki> parameter if the level is randomly generated segments, unless it has a special scenario players always run into (such as the one in An Occurrence at Owlite Keep). Looks like you're having fun! I should have some time tomorrow to do some things...then...be gone for a long time ;n; --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 03:36, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
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:Ohh ok then! Random = <nowiki>'''Gallery'''</nowiki>, if isnt random then the <nowiki>|gallery=</nowiki>. I was going to ask too, host rank means when players can access to that mission (color image and start available) or when players can see the mission but cant enter (gray color with a lock image)?. Hahah yeah i decided to help the more i can with that, i have some dialogues for newest mission i need to transcribe too ^^. Dont be sad, u have a well winning vacations for all the great things u have done in this wiki :3! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 03:46, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
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::Nothing uses <nowiki>'''Gallery'''</nowiki> anymore, only use <nowiki>|gallery=</nowiki>. I fixed that up a while back because it was such a consistent entry it deserved its own parameter. Only use the <nowiki>|gallery=</nowiki> parameter for randomly generated areas in the situation outlined above. Of course, we always use it for set maps. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 14:42, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
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=="Boss Stratum Missions"==
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==Echo Stone==
Heads up - we want to make sure the chronology of these areas is very clear. Be sure to include a notes section on mission pages, including release date. For missions which drop the player directly into a boss stratum, refer to [[Shadow of the Beast]] for examples of wording in the notes section. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:16, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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I'm not sure how to go about the format of echo stone showhides.
:Oh yeah, i trough that when i saw there wasn't page for boss missions but, i dunno, i see its easier if i put the format just to be filled later so when i start my run-mule would be easy to see what is missing and what not. I put the needs update's tag to each of ones im adding without basic info--[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 00:24, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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{{:Echo Stone: Gloaming Wildwoods}}
::Sounds efficient. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:37, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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There's an example. Thoughts? Trying to find a balance between mimicking the in-game interface and being usable on the wiki. Recon modules were easier, echo stones are weird. Might end up just simplifying it. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 05:51, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
:::Im doing it cuz i know im going to work in them later, at least people would now that its a WiP xD. Im been slow this day but luckily i will start filling the info faster :) --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 01:06, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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:I dont see anything that will affect the wiki, actually mimicking the game interface is something that makes them nice :). But sadly i dont know how much echo stone mimic the game cuz i have never been in Shadow Lair u//u! Buuuut the Recon Module mimic the in-game perfectly (taking in count what wiki can make and not) So for those that have not went to Shadow Lair is a good thing that can see at least how will it look :3 --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 06:07, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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::Yeah it's this whole interactive thing that takes up the whole screen D: --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 06:08, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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:::But it looks good on a screen from tablet/cellphone/etc and from a normal computer, even with 1024x768 resolutions, it fit xD. Well i saw the page in my phone (The screen is not huge but neither is small) and in my computer i have 1920x1080 resolution but i resizer the window to test it and still is enough space :P! Maaaaybe, 800x600 will see snuggly but in phone looks good so 800x600 would be okay too --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 06:45, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 
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==Complicated Missions==
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==Area Format==
So, many missions (mostly Dangerous Prestige) have extremely complex areas one after another, but the map is set. I don't think editors would like cropping out sections of a fixed map, so I came up with a potential solution - check out [[Talk:Heart_of_Ice#Third_Floor|Heart of Ice: Amu-Sol]]. Of course, where the red text is, would be screenshots of the relevant area. Conveniently, the mini map will show the map segment the area is in, and it will always be included in the screenshot. I feel that this data is desired, because several of these pages have the data in some way, added by editors in the past. We're just organizing it. Of course, major entities such as Maulos will end up on their own pages, as part of the [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/111580 monster overhaul]. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 17:46, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
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We are developing a format for areas - [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/111949 here] if you want to feedback. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:36, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
:Oh yeah, bosses will definitive need their own page and category. I like the format, it is easy and useful, but dunno if would look better with a show/hide (dunno maybe im loving show/hide too much haha) I really doubt i could make danger mission's gallery because i suck at those xD but who knows-- Oh and u didnt tell me about the Host rank parametre --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 09:13, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
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:The mistakes is the awesome part hahaha, no need to check one by one which is awesome :D! I was reading the post, i already voted and give a feedback of what i think :P --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 00:00, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
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::Coolio. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 00:53, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 
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==Format==
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==Opal Prize Box==
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This opal stuff might take a while to get pics of, I have a feeling not many will be unboxed. Also I have a tummy ache. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 19:37, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
==Format Tips==
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:Okay then~ Btw, i have to admit Opal Aura looks cool, but im kinda sad its just prize box what the game is giving :(! Later i could do the "new prize box"'s work to help you. Rest for your ache :) sure is annoying D: --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 19:42, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
*The Mission Goal it is almost always "Get to the elevator."
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::Yeah I'm going to go do that. Only edit if it's fun, it's not fun for me right now xD --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 19:51, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
*And yeah we really have to improve the notes/exploration sections of these pages/floors. Basically, put notes in the notes section.  
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*Monsters don't belong in the exploration section at all, as they have their own section.
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*Runthrough tips don't belong in the exploration section.
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*[[Exploration]] entities as well as explaining the geography of the area belongs in this section.
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--[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:20, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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:I think i understand now :P it confused me just a little the 1A 2A and those but i prefer to ask if i get to take some screen for the galleries.
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:I can do the map color ^^! i was thinking in how u do it and i was right xD and HUDless would be usefull but i dont think that option wouldnt be available in a near/long future.
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:One question, what u mean by: "...with as many things as standardized as possible..." and "...I've been trying to take pictures of normal, statusless areas..." i didnt get those things xD. Dunno what u meant with "standardized" and "normal, statusless"--[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 01:33, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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::So like...I would prefer to take a picture in "Clockwork Tunnels: Wild Path" instead of "Blast Furnace: Wild Path." --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:01, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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==Monster Order==
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==EventExpired==
I see u move some mobs, it is because i have to put them like:<br>
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Merp, opinion on [[Template talk:Eventexpired|this]]? In short, it doesn't make sense to have it for certain things and not others, and it interrupts the flow of a page in an unneeded manner. I only support the reskin tag because it might save players some actual cash to get the less expensive version. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:08, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
{{Monster_Icons|Beast}} Beast<br>
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: Just left a vote :3 i usually forgot discussions pages exist outsite user's pages xD --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 22:45, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
{{Monster_Icons|Construct}} Construct<br>
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{{Monster_Icons|Fiend}} Fiend<br>
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{{Monster_Icons|Gremlin}} Gremlin<br>
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{{Monster_Icons|Slime}} Slime<br>
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{{Monster_Icons|Undead}} Undead<br>
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but not by mob-alphabetic? (Like [[Frostifur_Fandango#Third_Floor|here]] that u add Wolver and then Alpha Wolver without being A first to W?)--[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 01:38, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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:Yes, alphabetize monsters within family as well as by family. I've been trying to keep it organized by family at least. It's a huge project so it's difficult to do everything correctly the first time. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:05, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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==Monster Template==
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Oh it's fine. We improved a few things. Major changes include map naming convention and the use of [[Template:Monster]] as a linking template. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 22:37, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
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:Ohh i like the Monster template :D no need to add the icons all over the wiki. I will fix the mission's page now and see which one is lacking of this template ^^ --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 22:55, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
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::IKR! Half a day of coding to take care of an eternity of potential mistakes. It's also faster. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:36, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
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==How to make Maps==
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==Userspace Edits==
It's an incredibly tedious cropping process. Someone wrote a script a long time ago, before we had the overlay, but I have not tried it.
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I think I've worked out a solution for our recent upsets. Looking over [http://wiki.spiralknights.com/User_talk:Clotho#Duplicate_Icon_Issue this] and providing some perspective on Clotho's talk page would help push the policy into review stage, to be rejected/modified/accepted. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:27, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
*Then I color the map in with the same colors as the minimap so it's all clear.
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:It is a good idea actually. I just leave my opinion :). Hope this could be made so users understand that, even if we know its a mistake, they dont get mad for the change. For later, more than a tutorial, we can add an "SpiralKnight:" page for the user page (with the policy is approved). To be honest, being new here, couldnt find the page where it help you do a user page, it took me a while to find it, maybe because  "tutorial" wouldnt be a good name for me, but something like a "SpiralKnight:" page WITH the tutorial inside, we can add the categories that have the icons usefull for the pages. Hope this advance :) --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 20:51, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
--[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:06, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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:'''P.D:''' not related but all those mistake in the disguise box was me haha. Sorry i tried my best within the new box of items, it was way easy with the autumn prize box x//D --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 20:52, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
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::Thanks :). Don't worry about it...I think we all know prize boxes are all kinds of silly. Even the forum admins :P --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 20:56, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
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:::Well, Clotho says it's up to us. So now booty scooty feedback over to [http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/112452 here]. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 02:24, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
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::::Woopie. I think a revision of the style guide would be fun, but it would need its own forum node, and I can start that after making a decent base for people to work from. So much wikipedia MoS source linking to do. Subpages would definitely help with the organization. I might have to make this a priority over other projects, because I will likely be far too busy with icky real life to help the wiki as much as people are used to. Which is an unhealthy amount. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:16, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Yay~ Dunno if subpages would be SpiralKnights:Style guide/subpagename or SpiralKnights:subpagename, i like the first better, but dunno how will work. And yeah, i saw your To Do List and thaaaaats alot ._.!!! Dont push yourself too much tho, i will see how much help i can do there :) --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 00:08, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 
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==How to take Screens==
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==Smashing==
How do you "follow" a format to take screens? I created a char to make screns and gather dialogues but how do i begin? (Btw, this can be in some days first i am going to add the format to almost all and other things but just so i know :D) --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 00:20, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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Done~ Btw, talking about allusions, im pretty sure the new Smashing Moustache is a reference to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7iKrTNX6OE Nigel Thornberry]'s meme. --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 23:05, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
:Well what I do is:
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:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7iKrTNX6OE I've been wondering about how to word it]. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:11, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
*Type '''/cle''' into the chatbox (to remove text and take care of privacy issues and clutter)
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:I had a go at it. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:16, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
*Collapse the side menus that display your mail/forge etc, and take the screenshot with Print Screen command.
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::It seems good to me :D! --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 01:40, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
*I try to take a screenshot with as many things as standardized as possible (for [[User:Novaster/Sandbox|my personal sandbox]] project I've been trying to take pictures of normal, statusless areas and update them whenever I remember to do so).
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* also remove monster HP bars as these clutter the shot, but I know a few of pics have these bars. I really wish players had a HUDless option so we could take [[:File:Graveyard.png|pictures like this]].
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*Oh and I'll have graphics on high, of course.
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--[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:06, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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==Image's Names==
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As far as naming goes, I have been tryyyyyyyyyyyying to do it like so: [[:File:Area-Toy Soldiers-Production Center-1A.png|Area-MISSION-FLOOR.png]], or just [[:File:Map-Clockwork Tunnels-L-1A.png|Area-AREA-Segment.png]] As far as I can tell, the number/letter system (the -1A, -2A bit) I came up with a while ago is more annoying than useful, so just using nothing, 2,3 might be better. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:06, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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==Floor Wording==
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I did a few fixes here and there, but I have to go for tonight. These are tiny finicky things that ultimately don't matter, but are nice to keep consistent. Which is better wording, do you think -
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"This floor is composed of random AREANAME segments." or "An area similar to AREANAME"?
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We can't just say "This floor is AREANAME," because missions do not have [[scenario room]]s in the random pool for level creation, so they are not truly AREANAME. We settled on the second one when we made gate maps (mostly), but I think the first one in general makes more sense. To save work, we'd stick with the second one. But it seems a little vague, and that's not good for a wiki, now that I'm looking at it later. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 01:39, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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:Ohh get it now! Thx ^^ i too like details so i can understand :D i will keep it them like "An area similar to AREANAME" then ^^. Will try my best, after i work sometimes in an specific format (like main list or mission page) it seems like its better to keep somethings to last, at least for me, cuz at the end of fixing all mission page, u can think "well, the mayority of the page have X thing so i can add it like X to all" and keep the consistence that, even if its not big deal, details make everything beutiful haha. I too will go to sleep soon so have a good nite~ --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 02:31, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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::Had a talk with another editor, we feel that the "This floor is composed of random AREANAME segments" is best. I shall make a template to use for this phrase and area linking...probably tomorrow. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 03:47, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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:::Well I got inspired and did it. [[Template:Area|here's the template]] and I've fixed up all the gate maps and floor templates. Likely made a few mistakes, feel free to check (please do). Use the area template for mission pages in the floor template's exploration section, they should pretty much be copy pastes from the Gate Map, though don't mention monsters in the exploration section. --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 10:50, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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::::Yeah i saw ^^! Sorry i didnt reply, wasnt in the computer. Im gonna use this format then :) --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 23:07, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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:::::Hurray~. I'm working on the gloaming maps atm. So many little corners! The artifact project I've started shouldn't take long to complete. I'm looking forward to cleaning up the page...hopefully it won't blow up into a huge project! haha. But I'd like for users to have easier access to this content. If it's on the NPC and mission pages as well as the commemorative artifact page, I think a lot more people will be exposed to it more often. What do you think? --[[User:Novaster|Novaster]] 23:32, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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::::::Oh i didnt see the recent changes till now, finally shadow of the beast have content :D. I like the Artifact added to the mission page. --[[User:HikaruFer|Hikaru]] 00:00, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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