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Acquisiton 1.0

We are working on populating User:HexZyle/Template:RecipeLocation with data for equipment items. If you wish to help with this format (I think you do, based on Template talk:Page/Weapon), mimic this format exactly for each item. Discussion about this format can be found here, please stick with this format. It's been worked through quite meticulously considering all the standardized acquisition scenarios we can think of.

• Do not implement the template in the mainspace - after we've added all the item entries, we will put all the coding content into an appropriately named template.
• Then we begin the next phase - implementation. Each page needs thorough checking to make sure no methods are missed, as the template is implemented. It will be an arduous process.

If there's something weird about an item, talk about it here. I'll be adding various examples that are not vendors (such as prize boxes) and improving the system with a Brinks template after lunch today. --Novaster 16:57, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

I dunno there existed one xD! I found all these template and text in some of the gun-sword-shield list, i was confused at first that just some had a template (like Machine) and others doesnt (just the text) but trough, like u said, was low priority, but didnt think i could be used un a complete template. Seems cool! What can i do :D? I will number a few things and u tell me if i do or do not.

Things i need to remember for the Template

1. Keep "Vendors who sell the recipe for this item:" in all items (and "Vendors who sell this item:" too)
2. In case of "Reward" and "Vendor", i keep this: *The recipe for this item is a reward for completing the {{mission|Sewer Stash}} (bound)"
3. And if its just an item (no recipe) i change it like: *This item is a reward for completing the {{mission|Sewer Stash}} (bound)"
4. Add a tempalte for Santuary Machine like the Mysterious one
5. When its PrizeBox or Machine (Santuary or Mysterious) i dont add anything (like "Vendors who sell the recipe for this item" and etc)
6. Do i compile information from the actual pages to make the template?
7. Items that will go there are Armour (Without the news from gunnerupdate), Helmet (i guess the same as armour), Shields, Bombs, Handguns and Sword right? With all an their skins?

Order of the Information

1. SignUp/Bundles/Especial
2. Mission Reward
   1. Item
   2. Recipe
3. Item (Vendors)
   1. Bazaar Vendor (Alphabetical)
4. Recipe (Vendors)
   1. Basil (plus lobby)
   2. HoHVendor (Alphabetical)
   3. Bazaar Vendor (Alphabetical)
5. Rare Drop/Others

--Hikaru 19:21, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

That seems right, except do NPCs alphabetically. Do a few entries and I'll check them. After that you will be a mindless robot. --Novaster 19:31, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Aye~Aye~ then! Thx x3!--Hikaru 19:47, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Also, for the compiled information, yes, just basically put it into the new format in the template...making sure the methods are legitimate/up to date in-game wouldn't hurt, but I don't think we've had any major updates regarding changes to this...at least, not like materials. Whew. --Novaster 19:59, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

I will edit it in an outside note (in my pc) after i have all i will check, which would be the tedious part. --Hikaru 20:24, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Order of the Template

Btw, before starting, should i add them per item? Like, >Helmet>Shield>Bomb>Handgun>Swords and stars?. Like, Aegis and Ancient Plate are 5* shields, acheron is 5* and avenger is 4*. So it will be in that order and not: Acheron, Aegis, Ancient and Avenger. Which one should i use? (I know the all "A" in alphabetical is the actual one but seems like it is better to find if its by type and then star, or just type seems good too) --Hikaru 20:24, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't matter since it's an internal template. Do whatever is easier for editors. By item type would likely be a lot better. (I would keep reskins as their own type, regardless of the item's actual type). --Novaster 20:33, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

For me, its easy if its by Type (then Star) because i dont get lost easily, i would keep Reskins as the 7th type then, after sword so everything seems in an order --Hikaru 20:40, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Acquisition 2.0

Template for Vendors

I have also reworded vendors so that they have the same kind of information. New templates:

Template:Greave

These are working very well. You/me can make templates for the other vendors easily and carefully add them to the acquisition template. One thing that concerns me now is the size of the acquisition template. It would probably be smart to split it into Acquisition/Defense, Acquisition/Offense, Acquisition/Misc (for trinkets and other misc items). --Novaster 22:26, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

About new vendor's template seems good :D, but there is not a way to add greave (and the other vendors, not vatel ofc) in the same Bazaarvendor's template? same as Greave individualy but all in one. I think, right now, Greave's template will work like: (Greave|randomly|2) right? dunno if there is a way to be: (BazaarVendor|Greave|randomly|2) dunno if that its better or would be a mess XD. Ofc Vatel is foreveralone with its own template cuz he sells recipes but others seems to have the same pattern of prices and the randomly/always is already in the code. Btw i like that u change the HoHVendor, the name= and star= wasnt so necesary, i find it simplier now :D. Did u make the change in the master template? i couldnt do much yersterday after afternoon and its the same for today xD but tomorrow will be different. I can help with making the code for the other's vendor but want to ask first what u think of BaazarVendor with the 4 (i think there are four of them) of vendors --Hikaru 23:29, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

I think we should do each relevant vendor in BaazarVendor, to be similar to HoH. And yes I made the change to the master template with the HoHvendor. I am leaning more towards PAGENAME for universal use. What do you think? --Novaster 23:37, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Here are the new Vendor's templates:

Template:Kragen

Template:Ricasso

Template:Quillion

--Hikaru 23:48, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Report

Okay, been messing around with the coding, it will be better to have the bazaar vendors in their own templates for flexibility due to their different kinds of items. HoHVendors all have recipes with 100% consistent pricing patterns (thank goodness, otherwise we'd try to go after "that one vendor who happens to pay more/sell for less" and have to template that! ew). --Novaster 00:19, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Hahaha yeah! the HoH is simple because of that but would be horrible if it have all diferent prices OTL! haha. I like it the way it is now haha --Hikaru 00:38, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

I see this happening in a few phases now. First we make the vendor templates, then we make the acquisition templates, move the data from the master template into them, and gradually populate them/error check, then implement/error check. So what I would do is pick a vendor who's not greave or vatel and start making a template for them that's like Template:Vatel. I'll work out the kinks with Greave, and remove the use of Template:Vatel/Recipe. --Novaster 00:44, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Hold off a sec, I have to make a switch for "always" vs. "randomly" --Novaster 00:46, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Should be good to replicate code now. --Novaster 00:55, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

So i can take Greave's template and work with it for the rest (Kragen and etc) right? ofc i have to end the acquisition page too xD couldnt do anything today :( --Hikaru 0133, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Do things as you have time. And yes, the code should be good for duplication with stranger vendor templates. --Novaster 02:18, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Okay then x3! I will work with that :) -Hikaru 02:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Main Templates

Anywho I'm quite divided on the manner. PAGENAME is great and easy and will take some time to do and be a bit repetitive internally, but (potentially, if the game updates with changes) a hassle to update down the road. Star switches take advantage of patterns and are easy in that way, but can't be as easily universally used and their implementation is likely to have more error.--Novaster 22:37, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi~ Well, i was thinking something like that xD acquisition's template is big but didnt know in how many parts slipt it. Defense (Helmet, Armour and Shield right?), Offense (Bomb, Handgun and Swords right?) and Misc (Trinkets and more, anything that doesnt belong in the first two) sounds good :3! The page wouldnt be so heavy and would be easy to look for an item if changes are needed. --Hikaru 23:29, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

To be consistent with the material page and most other page templation, perhaps we should name the templates Weapon/Acquisition etc. instead of Acquisition/Weapon.--Novaster 23:51, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Yeah :D also the material page have Material/Acquisition so it would make sense :). --Hikaru 00:38, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Split

Okay, feel free to divide into:

Template:Armor/Acquisition

Template:Helmet/Acquisition

Template:Shield/Acquisition

Template:Bomb/Acquisition

Template:Handgun/Acquisition

Template:Sword/Acquisition

Template:Reskin/Acquisition

Template:Trinket/Acquisition

Template:Misc/Acquisition (a little weird)

It will take some time, I think. Let me know if there's problems. As you can imagine, I'm swamped with sapphires right now. --Novaster 22:18, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Haha i was about to ask for this! xD page is getting a problem with the weight haha. I see u was busy with sapphire, u were right xD. Im gonna do it then :) after im done adding the reward's adc' im going to split them :) do i split them with A-B-C-etc right? or star? --Hikaru 23:08, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

I would prefer following the order that's on each item type's page (such as Armor). But since you're doing the work, do what's easier for you. --Novaster 22:30, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Armor's list (and the others) are in release's order right? i will do it like that :P. --Hikaru 23:08, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Basil Data

Hello there! I've volunteered to Novaster to be the slave, I mean wiki editor assistant, as far as Basil goes. =P Maybe my legwork can help you as well. I will be visiting Basil daily to check for recipes, so if you want I can keep you posted. Also the format in which Novaster made the list of recipes in Mission: In Cold Blood looks much better than the old format, so I will implement his format into other Missions recipes list. See you! -- MissNice 19:05, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi~ i was seeing the news, yesterday i couldnt log and tomorrow saturday and maybe sunday would be the same :(. Still i will work today, i was about to begin with basil ^^! I want do to novaster's template (Mission: In Cold Blood) too. But dunno which one data will u gather, basil's mission lobby or basil's arcada or both?. And yes i would like to see what u get ^^! U can keep writing me here~ --Hikaru 19:33, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Nice job on the templates! =) If you want, I can gather both data from Mission lobbies and Tier recipes. This just means i'll be ingame a lot, taking screenshots of Basil's recipes, checking for changes/patterns/other. If there is something specific you or Novaster want me to do, you can tell me. Until then, I'll be becoming Basil's new best friend. =P --MissNice 09:22, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Report

So, today I've managed to check Basil's inventory from a few Mission Lobbies. Since I don't have time anymore, rather than to show you piece by piece data I've gathered, I'll message you tomorrow in one nice chunk all of Basil's inventory from Missions Lobbies, so I can cross Lobbies off my list, so I can move onto next big thing that really interests me and that is content of Basil's inventory in all Tiers and their random/maybeNotRandom/whoKnows rotation. Cheers! ---MissNice 14:52, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Looks like Hikaru already did this work - mission lobbies are the same for everyone. Wouldn't want you to spend the time/trouble doing something redundant. I would suggest utilizing Recent Changes or looking through Hikaru's contribs to see work that's been done. That being said, double checking the work is definitely worth doing. --Novaster 16:25, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the links Novaster, you really try to be helpful, that's nice of you. =) And yes it's true, as far as I can see most of the recipes have already been checked and written by Hikaru. However, Basil holds more than just recipes in his inventory as we all know, capsules, vials and vitapods. Well, since Basil's page needs to get updated, well why not writing all that he has in his inventory in Mission Lobbies? Just because recipes are more important and it's something most people would want to look for, that doesn't mean we should ignore the rest, since some people actually do buy capsules and vitapods upfront. So I figured I would collect that data as well. It would be nice to see those written in the Wiki as well. But it's up to you guys to decide. Either way, the data is right here: User:MissNice#Basil (I didn't want to clutter your message board here, so instead it's all in the link). Cheers! --MissNice 16:42, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Report - September 2015

A few things you might want to know.

• I've added Brinks's Inventory to my data list. I noticed you were working on his page so I figured you could use some fresh juicy data. =) >> User:MissNice#Brinks << It is a screenshot and not written form like I usually do, because there's just a ton of items and cause some of them are bind on purchase and some are not bind on purchase, so a visual representation of his inventory seemed like a better option for you to use. You can now use this and update Brinks's webpage. =)
• Also added Greave, Kragen, Ricasso, Quillion and Vatel Inventory data. But unlike Brinks, they have some items that show up randomly, so they need to be monitored for a while to place all items in there. I hope this is to your liking. =) Cheers! --MissNice 16:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

OH yes yes! And a million yes! This is what i needed to do :3 specially Brinks and Vatel are the most who need it. I liked the way you add you, useful, less work and sorted. Im gonna add after finish my meal. Thx alot x3! Take care and really good job! --Hikaru 00:11, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Awesome, glad you like it! --MissNice 10:35, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Trinkets

Hold on there, we're working on a master acquisition template remember? --Novaster 18:21, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Hahaha did you read my mind? haha i was thinking about that this exact second, was going to look for my files and be sure xD --Hikaru 19:23, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Do we create Trinket/Acquisition or add them in Misc? --Hikaru 19:24, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

What do you think is best? I think Trinket/Acquisition, even though there's not many of them, they do have their own arsenal section. --Novaster 19:31, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Misc seems like an option, but, to be correctly sorted, Trinket/Acquisition its the best, i mean, what is another template for this wiki? also know this could help in the future --Hikaru 19:35, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Go for it wooo. --Novaster 19:37, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

NPC Data Gathering

Hey Hikaru, doing well? =) Listen, I'm gonna be busy with work from now on, so I want to get this NPC data gathering over with, but I'll need some help finishing this up. Any ideas or suggestions? -MissNice 21:58, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Since it turned out that way, go here: my talk page. -MissNice 17:43, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Sorry i couldnt reply! Was busy this days, im fine how r u :)? was reading the talk page. seems good, gonna keep watching it for more info. I will try to do some of these things because i do not have much time today, probably, neither tomorrow, but i will try to do the much things i could do about that! Thx for the info Miss~ Let me write in ur talk page~ --Hikaru 00:38, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Format Rewards

I have it like:

*Completion Reward:
:The recipe for this item is a reward for completing the {{Mission|NAME}} (bound/unbound)

*Completion Reward:
:This item is a reward for completing the {{Mission|NAME}} (bound/unbound)

Its okay? i saw in Emberbreak Shield that it was just: *The recipe for this item is a reward for completing the {{Mission|NAME}} (bound/unbound) --Hikaru 23:08, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Since there's only one entity in the "list" of this method of acquisition, I had it as a single bullet above vendors. Certain items only have one vendor, but consistency is better. I don't really know if there's an official formal format for this, perhaps instead of "completion reward" have "other" and have it below vendors? --Novaster 22:44, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

I see it over vendors like the best way cuz is the easier way to get them xD. But i can add it with a * and erase de Completion Reward: and do the same with Bundle:. Seems better --Hikaru 23:08, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Acquisition vs. idk :P

I'm thinking we remove the bullets if there's only one (non-trading/Auction House) method of acquisition. The Arcane Salamander Suit looks a little silly. --Novaster 14:11, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

We can remove the bullet if the method is just one? and not with a selling vendor (item/recipe)? The Note (in the arcane suit) with the bullet does look silly xD looks like "incomplete" ahaha --Hikaru 17:39, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Categories and Stalking lol

For the Basil subpages, I need to make a category just to keep track of them easily. I can add the cat to what's already been made if this is annoying, just be sure to add them to new pages as they're made. I didn't have this before because I wasn't sure we would use this format, but people really seem to like it! --Novaster 21:15, 4 September 2015 (UTC) Okay, I think I found them all. Add me in-game (IGN: Novaster) so we can talk easier there. --Novaster 21:27, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Okay then~ i will add u when i log in. Im going to travel from lobby to lobby to gather basil's info and make them in to templates --Hikaru 22:15, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Basil's gonna be like "So uh, you gonna buy anything?" ... "Nope" *clicks pen after staring and taking notes.* --Novaster 22:16, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

They gonna ban us for stalking poor basil --Hikaru 22:22, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Memoramdum

Do not refer to the format on published pages. If it's the same, it's just coincidence or leftovers from testing when this project had higher priority. Stick to the examples already in the template. --Novaster 23:08, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Ok then, so * and : in the template. And from now i will ask in ur talk page. I just dont want to make spam in ur page. Wish this could have like a mini tiny chat lol sorry. --Hikaru 23:58, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

NPCs

So these projects really spread into each other don't they? Wiki is a giant forest full of weeds and things that need trimming. I finally got around to making the NPC infobox (something I mentioned doing idk, in January 2015? lol). I've made documentation for it and implemented it on Vaelyn's page. The reason gallery is before wares/dialogue is because those are list format entries, and can extend quite a ways down, and we like to end lists with only "see also" so users are less likely to miss things, or have to scroll to get to additional important information that's not part of list(s). This format is all over the wiki, as per...some discussion on the forums somewhere. Examples are found on individual costume and accessory pages and uh...other places. Items such as the Node Slime Crusher and stuffs. Anyway this should make the pages look really clean, so if you/other editors feel the need to work on NPCs, there's now a standard to go by. I think this is the last thing that was on my mind to get settled before I leave tomorrow. --Novaster 23:07, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Yeah i was seeing :D! Vaelyn's page looks clean now. I love the infobox, they are really useful. And yeah XD its huge, i was like "lalala" in the missions and then pump into NPCs so i was like "uhmm.... vaelyn is so pretty, let me fix her page" and then Konway appear too, then Feron and i was like "ok maybe i need to fix some NPCs before moving on into missiones..." xD. Glad u add that cuz i was about to fix almost all NPC's page xD. Oh and btw, i was thinking in where i have seen Kora overworld to get a clean screen of her mugshot, do u remember? i cant xD only in comlinks. --Hikaru 23:17, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Kora's in Hall of Heroes I think, the last one where they're all clapping. So, the template should work for complicated characters such as Herex, who is fought as a boss only sometimes, let me know if there's any issues. --Novaster 23:18, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

You're doing a great job! I'm just denying that I have to be in the air in a few hours because my ears don't like flying. --Novaster 12:14, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

NPC individual vs. multiple

Hey there, still on vacation, but I had a moment here. If the NPC is a type of NPC, it needs to be in list format. For example, Nature Sprites and Spiral Wardens are types of NPCs, while "Virgil" is the name of a spiral warden type NPC. The difference becomes difficult to discern when the representatives of an NPC "species" or "race" or "type" don't have their own names, simply using the npc type in the dialogue box. I set up a demo format on Lost Soul of Almire and Lost Soul (Skull) pages, hoping to improve on the stranger page format (Which is horribly out of date and should not be redirected to "strangers", and be "Stranger," as per wiki MoS), but didn't get to it before vacation. --Novaster 04:53, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Hey Nova~! Well Thepc warning me about it, but i didnt know Nature Sprite would be in list format. I wanted to left Spiral Warden at the end to make it good. I can leave Spiral Warden and Nature Sprite as list (aaaaand dunno if would be the same with Knight, Gremlins, Bosses and etc) but i didnt get it, should i change Strangers for Stranger (move the page) and list ALL strangers there? BUT their pages remain the same? as Individuals? --Hikaru 06:09, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

P.D.: Bosses remain with Boss template or should i change? Feels like to change it but dunno --Hikaru 06:12, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
P.D: Strangers is that what you were saying? x//x --Hikaru 07:14, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

It's looking like my vacation is going to be cut short, so, you can just leave it till then. Should be half a week or so before I get back. Maybe Thurs. --Novaster 16:29, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Ohh i see, that was pretty short :o! Well i will keep doing a few things then :) --Hikaru 21:19, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm just staring at recent changes procrastinating doing laundry. I will likely get to polishing the NPC stuff later today or tomorrow. --Novaster 21:07, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Hey there x3! haha i imagine! Was looking foward to it x3! But take your time, today im working in the spanish wiki and tomorrow i will be busy so i will can't help you. Eat, rest so tomorrow you will be frash and ready :o! haha --Hikaru 21:15, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

NPC Page Format v. 3.0

Boop. So NPCs that don't use equipment (knights or otherwise) would just use a paragraph format to describe them within the new Template:Appearance, similar to but not as involved as, say, this description of Bulbasaur on Bulbapedia. --Novaster 20:30, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Seems good to me :D but i find "redundant" the (Icon) [[Armor]]: Information what about (Icon *with link and alttext*): Information. Icons speak for themselves aaaaand in a weird case that someone doesnt know what that icon means, they can click and the link page will tell them. --Hikaru 20:43, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, so, try viewing the most recent version of Vaelyn's page. Is that better? I'm a bit annoyed by the lack of a uniform weapon icon, so I'm just using the sword for now since it's iconic for the whole game anyway. --Novaster 20:56, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

The Sword, as i read the main list of swords, its the "main" weapon of Spiral Knight, so i think the sword icon is perfect :P! And yes ^^ seems good to me, maybe the : is annoying now that is only the icon without the link. But dunno how you see it --Hikaru 21:07, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

EDIT: Ahhh i think they look pretty great now :D --Hikaru 21:15, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Okay, cool...I have no preference regarding the colons, so, I'll remove them. I'm just used to using colons in this fashion. Since it's my mess and fiddling, I'll fix the NPC pages with this new format. It's just moving around what's already there, but it's still work that I've generated. --Novaster 21:16, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

It is true but i prefer that than an unorganized format :3 i might help you later with some of the NPCs page --Hikaru 21:28, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Your transparencies for the NPCs are fantastic. I imagine those will take up enough time xD --Novaster 21:32, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you ^//^! Hahaha they will, but mostly those that doesnt have a mugshot but a store window, like Bulky and Brinks, those are tedious for not having a "fixed" size so i have to compared them to see if it works, and hate to trace they names xD (why Sullivan, why u have such a long title)- Oh that reminds me, what do you though about "titles" for NPCs? like Sullivan, would be like [[Pit Boss]]: Coliseum Rewards Supervisor instead of just "Vendor", something that, you can add vendor so the template add the category but if the NPC have a title, like Sullivan or Ricasso, will show that one instead --Hikaru 21:38, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Something like [[Pit Boss]]: [[Vendor|Coliseum Rewards Supervisor]] should work. NPCs can call themselves whatever they want, they're still stingy vendors with terrible prices! :P. I'm thinking we should add a small opinion tag like so: Template:Note-VendorEconomics that says ": It is often cheaper to obtain the recipe for an item and craft it than it is to buy it from a vendor." --Novaster 21:43, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Seems good :D. The template could be like:

|type = monster

|subtype = Pit Boss

|role = vendor

|subtitle = Coliseum Rewards Supervisor

So we just need to add the subtitle parameter to the pages, i think, im just giving an idea cuz in the end, you are the one who could do the code cuz i failed miserable trying to fix a single px problem x//D. The Note could be added in the Vendor pages instead of each NPC i think :P --Hikaru 21:55, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Wew, tired. More tomorrow. --Novaster 00:25, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

I think adding the subtitle bit could potentially be confusing, since there's so many different kinds. To resolve the potentially never-ending adjustment of SK's updates/dynamic "status quo," I've removed several switches and allowed manual override of the intro phrase, this way, things are a little easier to work with, but editors will have to pay a little more attention to keep things consistent. --Novaster 21:44, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

NPC Page Format v. 3.1

It seems to be going well. For the galleries, I'm thinking we could move what I view as a redundant bit:

"NAME" as they appear in (the) "PLACE."

Could be instead:

"NAME" in (the) "PLACE."

--Novaster 21:44, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Oh, i was looking at the recent changes to see what switches did you mean, i think i know which ones now xD. I like it now! Much better i think, the "role" is more importante alone than with the "NPC:". And about the galliers, yeah those were a bit redundant (and kinda long xD) i was going to said the "PAGENAME" would be redundant too buuut without it, i dunno, it doesnt look good. I vote for what you proposed: "PAGENAME" in (the) [[PLACE]]. Will going to change it in the format template :) --Hikaru 00:20, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

PD: oh and about titles, is a shame :( i dunno i like those titles! But what you said makes sense --Hikaru 00:26, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks :). The Spiral Warden page took a lot more work than I thought it would (had to find proof for eeeeeeverything and I'm still very uncertain about the release dates). I'm logging off the wiki for today, well, regarding major edits. There's still more work to be done with the page, especially with images and individual page format (nobody made a page for Virgil?!), which I probably won't get to for a while, but I'll try tomorrow. Have fun! --Novaster 01:22, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Lore

For a not-soon-to-be-made (maybe-probably-never-happen) if i have time and everything seems pretty. It would be nice to have a "History" page. I havent read complety the history (from mission) but would be nice. With the Dialogues u made seems like a good choice. As u said with the mission page "like a book" i think in that but in the history timeline or something like that. Ofcourse that is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far away haha but after the edits u made seems like it wouldnt be so bad cuz adding dialogues would be easily :P and artific now have their own templates --Hikaru 00:00, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I like to use Release/all and maintain the News page, but there's lots of things they don't make patch notes about. Unless you mean like, lore history, of almire and whatnot. That stuff is all over the place, and yes, an article linking to and summarizing lore/history would be sweet. --Novaster 00:04, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Oh look I found this. It's a start. --Novaster 00:05, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I had to google that! New Word to me haha. That is what i meant! In a... Timeline format or an informative format something like, a page to talk only about the history of the game, now i know "Lore" would capsule all what i was saying haha. Im a dork for those thing haha but ofcourse, i prefer organizing the information that is like a future-not-soon-proyect i would like to help with :)!--Hikaru 00:13, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Echo Stone

I'm not sure how to go about the format of echo stone showhides.

 Echo Stone: Gloaming Wildwoods

A smooth, white stone recovered in the Sanctuary. Holding it, you hear a voice within your mind:

I DREAM...

WITHIN MY DREAM I SAW IT OPEN THE VOID, FELT ITS ENDLESS HUNGER.

YOU ARE SAFE HERE, KNIGHT.
WITHIN THIS DREAM, ITS MANY EYES CANNOT SEE YOU NOR CAN ITS MANY ARMS REACH YOU.

BUT THIS DREAM IS FLEETING. USE WHAT IS HERE TO PREPARE FOR THE BATTLE TO COME.
IT KNOWS OF YOU NOW. IT WILL FIND A WAY OUT AND COME FOR YOU.

There's an example. Thoughts? Trying to find a balance between mimicking the in-game interface and being usable on the wiki. Recon modules were easier, echo stones are weird. Might end up just simplifying it. --Novaster 05:51, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I dont see anything that will affect the wiki, actually mimicking the game interface is something that makes them nice :). But sadly i dont know how much echo stone mimic the game cuz i have never been in Shadow Lair u//u! Buuuut the Recon Module mimic the in-game perfectly (taking in count what wiki can make and not) So for those that have not went to Shadow Lair is a good thing that can see at least how will it look :3 --Hikaru 06:07, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Yeah it's this whole interactive thing that takes up the whole screen D: --Novaster 06:08, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

But it looks good on a screen from tablet/cellphone/etc and from a normal computer, even with 1024x768 resolutions, it fit xD. Well i saw the page in my phone (The screen is not huge but neither is small) and in my computer i have 1920x1080 resolution but i resizer the window to test it and still is enough space :P! Maaaaybe, 800x600 will see snuggly but in phone looks good so 800x600 would be okay too --Hikaru 06:45, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Area Format

We are developing a format for areas - here if you want to feedback. --Novaster 23:36, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

The mistakes is the awesome part hahaha, no need to check one by one which is awesome :D! I was reading the post, i already voted and give a feedback of what i think :P --Hikaru 00:00, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Coolio. --Novaster 00:53, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Opal Prize Box

This opal stuff might take a while to get pics of, I have a feeling not many will be unboxed. Also I have a tummy ache. --Novaster 19:37, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Okay then~ Btw, i have to admit Opal Aura looks cool, but im kinda sad its just prize box what the game is giving :(! Later i could do the "new prize box"'s work to help you. Rest for your ache :) sure is annoying D: --Hikaru 19:42, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I'm going to go do that. Only edit if it's fun, it's not fun for me right now xD --Novaster 19:51, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

EventExpired

Merp, opinion on this? In short, it doesn't make sense to have it for certain things and not others, and it interrupts the flow of a page in an unneeded manner. I only support the reskin tag because it might save players some actual cash to get the less expensive version. --Novaster 20:08, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Just left a vote :3 i usually forgot discussions pages exist outsite user's pages xD --Hikaru 22:45, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Smashing

Done~ Btw, talking about allusions, im pretty sure the new Smashing Moustache is a reference to Nigel Thornberry's meme. --Hikaru 23:05, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

I've been wondering about how to word it. --Novaster 23:11, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

I had a go at it. --Novaster 23:16, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

It seems good to me :D! --Hikaru 01:40, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Userspace Edits

I think I've worked out a solution for our recent upsets. Looking over this and providing some perspective on Clotho's talk page would help push the policy into review stage, to be rejected/modified/accepted. --Novaster 20:27, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

It is a good idea actually. I just leave my opinion :). Hope this could be made so users understand that, even if we know its a mistake, they dont get mad for the change. For later, more than a tutorial, we can add an "SpiralKnight:" page for the user page (with the policy is approved). To be honest, being new here, couldnt find the page where it help you do a user page, it took me a while to find it, maybe because "tutorial" wouldnt be a good name for me, but something like a "SpiralKnight:" page WITH the tutorial inside, we can add the categories that have the icons usefull for the pages. Hope this advance :) --Hikaru 20:51, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

P.D: not related but all those mistake in the disguise box was me haha. Sorry i tried my best within the new box of items, it was way easy with the autumn prize box x//D --Hikaru 20:52, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks :). Don't worry about it...I think we all know prize boxes are all kinds of silly. Even the forum admins :P --Novaster 20:56, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Well, Clotho says it's up to us. So now booty scooty feedback over to here. --Novaster 02:24, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Woopie. I think a revision of the style guide would be fun, but it would need its own forum node, and I can start that after making a decent base for people to work from. So much wikipedia MoS source linking to do. Subpages would definitely help with the organization. I might have to make this a priority over other projects, because I will likely be far too busy with icky real life to help the wiki as much as people are used to. Which is an unhealthy amount. --Novaster 23:16, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Yay~ Dunno if subpages would be SpiralKnights:Style guide/subpagename or SpiralKnights:subpagename, i like the first better, but dunno how will work. And yeah, i saw your To Do List and thaaaaats alot ._.!!! Dont push yourself too much tho, i will see how much help i can do there :) --Hikaru 00:08, 31 October 2015 (UTC)